C'da, >Even Ram could imagine that, in spite of the smoke and mirrors that disorient >him so often.
Thank you for that vote of confidence (at least this time). What Umesh brought up may have been not understanding the situation fully. IMHO the ULFA leadership have at least one thing going for them - their tenacity. As for governance, polititcians do not need to bring experience (it helps) along. I too agree that they have the intelligence and the smarts (that they have continued for 25 + years). But thats not the issue here. Now, having got that out of the way, I think those who are pro/against this movement are divided on philosphical grounds. But one would really like to know, what happens if the talks fail on one particular condition: Sovereignty. ULFA has always claimed that is the primary condition and will not negotiate that condition away. Basically, they would like the talks to center around the when and how of Assam's independence from India. The pertinent question for Assam and Assamese would hover around what if GOI does not agree to Assam's sovereignty? I know, you will retort with "its not theirs to give etc etc". But from ground realities, as India is more powerful (bad as you may want to make her out to be), it has all the bargaining chips even before the talks begin. I do not think you will find any "2-bit general" in the GOI that has no clue. Just like ULFA there are numerous GOI officials who can put up enough intelligence to see things their way. I hope you don't think they are all clueless in Delhi. --Ram On 6/29/05, Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > > > Your contention was that since the ULFA (to you obviously) 'seems' to be > made up of high-school dropouts , they could not possibly have any skills > either to have a political platform or plan or the intelligence to negotiate > with GoI. > > My point is that anyone making such observation is: > > A: Not a very bright person, never mind what degrees or educational > credentials he might have to flaunt. It is a quintessentially desi > trait as most of us here would know. And the results in desi-govt. > is > all the proof one needs. > > B: Only the poorly educated or one without common sense would > equate academic credentials with intelligence. Because even a > completely unschooled person could be far more skilled in political > or social issues or warfare or business or leadership etc. etc. > than say an IIT degree flaunter or an MIT PhD holder. > > I cannot tell you what 'professional' skills ULFA leaders or cadres have. I > don't know any of them. But I can tell you this from observation, they are > far more intelligent, skilled and courageous than people making these > half-assed comments. > > Also, as Dilip explained, it is quite possible; in fact it is quite well > known in Assam; that some of Assam's best advise ULFA on a variety of > issues. And I can tell you that these are no less than any North or South or > Central Indian, either in intelligence or in professional skills and far > more enlightened than any two bit General of the Indian armed forces that > Delhi sends out to rule the NE. Even Ram could imagine that, in spite of the > smoke and mirrors that disorient him so often. > > Hope that helps. > > > > > > > > > At 11:46 PM +0100 6/29/05, umesh sharma wrote: > C-da, > > Instead of answering my question with another question ,why don't you > attamept to highlight the professional skills of ULFA . You seem to have > lots of faith in their ability . > > Umesh > > Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > At 8:51 PM +0100 6/29/05, umesh sharma wrote: > >If I may clarify, all ULFA memebrs seem to be skilled > >in (jungle) warfare but seem to have no plan for > >governance. > > > *** Really? > > In what language does the following > > > >"--- --- most seem like high school > >> drop outs to --any > > >views on their professional skills in development?" > > > mean that? I am still wondering about the quality of education that > could generate such questions and such explanations. > > > > > Do they have the skills to discuss a > >fruitful plan of development with Indian govt? > > > Same comment again, Dilip's observations not withstanding, which > incidentally could be deep dark mysteries only to the woefully > clueless. > > > > > > > > > > >Umesh > > > > > >--- Chan Mahanta wrote: > > > >> I wonder about the quality of 'education' that would > >> produce a > >> question such as this. > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > >> At 3:37 AM +0100 6/29/05, umesh sharma wrote: > >> >I wonder what the learned memebers of ULFA have > >> learnt in their > > > >jungle university --- most seem like high school > >> drop outs to --any > > > >views on their professional skills in development? > >> > > >> >Umesh > >> > > >> >[EMAIL PROTECTED] wrote: > >> > > >> >RK, > >> >The question is worth million dollar,indeed." Miya > >> ki daur masjid > >> >tak" is an old Urdu aphorism which,when > >> transalated,means, ' the > >> >Muslim's run end at the mosque'.Its message has > >> wisdom: everything > >> >must have a limit.But there is apparently no limit > >> to the talk about > >> >talks as far as the ULFA is concerned.Sooner or > >> later,the people of > >> >Assam will start wondering what the ULFA can talk > >> to the Government > >> >about save Assam's independence.Quite > >> obviously,sovereignty will > >> >come up for discussion, because the ULFA wants > >> it.But most > >> >certainly, the GOI will turn down the demand. 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