Umesh,

> I was wondering why all of a sudden so many NRAs have started feeling 
> >offended by my mails

It was definitely NOT sudden. Hints were thrown your way a number of
times. Many of us were more 'uncomfortable' to say the least reading
some of your postings.

 I
> realized that perhaps my observations on the behavior of some US based NRI
> kids has been responsible for this sudden spurt.

Wrong again. It was/is your obsession with the 'sex lives' and weird
life styles of others. Why do you think your recent article for the
was Newsletter was not accepted.

>I do not see any link to religion  here.

That was a reference to when you first started posting in these
columns - when you were in India. One cannot be blatantly supportive
of everything Hindu, specially in the light of Godhra and other
Hindu/Muslim conflicts. A true Hindu would condemn the wrongs Hinduism
and its practice all the time and without excuses. In essence you have
to be fair in your analyses.

Those are serious topics, and when we try to be be judgemental in a
public forum, it must be dealt with finesse and sensitivity. Unlike
other places, Assam has been free of Hindu/Muslim frictions.

> I guess my mails on some NRI kids lifestyles hurt sensibilities of many on 
> this >forum.

Why do you assume that. Many NRI kids have excelled in many fields. In
many ways, NRI kids do not come with many a hangup that comes with the
desi kids. There are the good, the bad and ugly on both sides. So it
was unfair of you to single out just the NRI kids.

--Ram da



On 8/11/05, umesh sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> C-da,
>  
>  
> I have been late in responding to your mail becos today I was wondering why
> all of a sudden so many NRAs have started feeling offended by my mails. I
> realized that perhaps my observations on the behavior of some US based NRI
> kids has been responsible for this sudden spurt. I must say noone told me
> about such things possible in USA so I was at a loss - and sought advice
> from those already based here for long.  I do not see any link to religion
> here.
>  
> I guess I should limit my discussion to education and economic development
> in Assam or India as a whole and not express opinions  on the hallowed
> lifestyles of US based NRIs. 
> This reminds me of the furore created by the films Water, Fire etc when
> focus was on treatment of widows and life of housewives on some Indian
> homes. It hurt sensibilities of most Indians. I guess my mails on some NRI
> kids lifestyles hurt sensibilities of many on this forum.
>  
> I think I will keep quiet about NRI kids behavior - atleast on this forum.
> But you never commented on my article on IMDT either. Any views??
>  
> Umesh
> 
> Chan Mahanta <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> Hi Umesh:
> 
> 
> The Assam Netters have been very accommodating to you, considering you are a
> gate-crasher with an agenda. Remember how I got on your case about your
> anti-Muslim posts to Assam Net and those who echo your sentiments, although
> very un-Assamese like, came to your defense, on grounds of free speech? Free
> speech, incidentally is a privilege, not a right, in a private e-mail list
> such as Assam Net.
> 
> It is obvious you don't pick things up too well. Your preoccupation with
> sexual habits of 'white' Americans or NRI children, Bollywood personalities,
> wealth and social mores of NRI children and your half-baked assessments and
> broad-brush judgements of people on skimpy evidence, speaks more of your
> maturity than subjects of your judgment; Harvard Grad School of Ed not
> withstanding.
> 
> I have no problems understanding your affected interests in Assam and the
> Assamese. But it will do you well to listen and adjust your modus operandi
> in Assam Net. Your attitudes and mind-set are fairly alien to the Assamese
> one, if you have not yet noticed.
> 
> Take care.
> 
> cm
> 
> 
> PS: Hi Saswati: Good to hear from you. Hope things are going well for you..
> Assam net is a self subscribing/un-subscribing list these days. I hope you
> won't leave, but participate. Say Hi to Babul. Best.--c'da
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 
> At 11:49 PM +0100 8/10/05, umesh sharma wrote:
> Dear Tridip,
>  
> You have already started the good work!!! -- by contributing to its
> discussions. It would be interesting to hear from your experience in
> Lucknow.
>  
> Umesh 
> 
> tridip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> hi saswati,
>  well, guess u got signed in by default ( being a member of ratne..though i
> am not sure if that happened or if that's possible at all..just a guess
> )..as for unsubscribing from the group..i think u should give it a second
> thought...now that u are already a member of the group...i believe u can put
> that to good effect....everyone can play a role here....one can start some
> healthy discussion... issues pertaining to  assam and see what the assamese
> diaspora think about it ....just an opinion though! having said that lemme
> clarify that i am neither the moderator nor the owner of the group...and to
> be honest i am not sure whether i actually did signed up for this group or
> not.....since i was receiving all these mails..i thought i might have signed
>  
> regards,
> tridip.
> lucknow
> 
> umesh sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> I find it amusing that u are on it without subscribing to it. Maybe some
> well wisher gifted you a membership.
>  
> Umesh
> 
> Saswati Bora <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Tridip, I echo your sentiments.
>  
> However, unlike you, I dont remember signing into this group at all. So
> whoever is the moderator, please unsubscribe me.
>  
> Thank you.
> 
> 
> tridip <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> 
> hi umesh,
> i am simply not interested in knowing why ur landlord dont want to marry
> even though he has many girl friends...or how many houses he is the proud
> owner of....or whether he's frank enough not to sign pre-nups oe
> not......and if karishma kapoor has demanded alimony or not...
>  
> i didnt sign up in this group to get news about what the celebrities are
> doin' and with whom they are moving around with....nor am i interested in
> knowing whether husbands in US hold their wives hands during delivery or
> not....
> ..sorry for being harsh with the words but u are spaming my mailbox. please
> think about us mere mortals who have other things to do instead of reading
> and gossiping about ppl who dont affect us at all...( by the way, is their
> any remedy for spaming in the US besides unsubscribing from the group???)
>  
> regards,
>  
> tridip
> lucknow
> 
> umesh sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Money may be a reason for her tantrums - she is demanding 1.2 million
> dollars (Rs 7 crores as alimony it seems
> http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/articleshow/msid-1196431,curpg-1.cms
> )
>  
> My lanlord and proud owner of 4 houses is extremely concerned about this
> alimony business in US. From himonly I learnt tha in US many couple do not
> marry beocs in the event of a divorce they have to split their assets in
> half. Though my landlord has many girlfriends and even had live in relations
> with some he did not want to lose 2 of his houses by marrying . And he is
> not frank enough to sign a pre-nupital contract -as many hi-fi people do.
>  
>  
> Umesh
> 
> umesh sharma <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> Hi,
>  
> Although it would be callous on my part to speak out against a women who
> recently became a mother and just then having trouble with her marriage --
> but seeing the plight of Karishma Kapoor - the erstwhile Bollywood super
> heroine - I am wondering whether she too is blindly aping the West. (as
> mentioned below)
>  
> It is true that a pregnant woman needs to have her husband by her side and
> her husband was roaming around with some other females to visit night clubs
> during that period. In US I'm told the wannabe father has to hold to hand of
> the soon-to-be mother during labor - to soothe her.
>  
> However, given the fact that filmy life demands that heroines and heros
> spend lot of time dancing and kissing with their fellow actors. So if their
> spouse does the same thing - I do not see that as wrong. I do not hear that
> her husband was kissing other females --only that he was dancing with other
> girls  in night clubs.
>  
> God knows why this is a big issue.
> Do you?
>  
> Umesh
>  
> http://in.rediff.com/movies/2005/aug/09karisma.htm
> It's sad when a broken marriage is turned into a soap opera," a close friend
> of the Kapoors says, referring to the crisis in Karisma's marital life.
> An e-mail Karisma apparently sent her husband Sanjay Kapur has had a
> pandemonium effect in her life.
> The long e-mail was reportedly the former actress agonising about how her
> husband betrayed her. But she cannot understand the media's curiosity about
> her marital break-up.
> Who leaked the e-mail to the press? "It doesn't require Herculean sleuthing
> abilities to figure that out," remarks the family friend. "The timing of the
> e-mail and the ensuing restraining order preventing Karisma from taking the
> baby out of the country, cannot be two unrelated incidents. This is more
> than a coincidence."
> Karisma's husband files case against her
> Sister Kareena speaks on her family's behalf, "We've been battered and
> cornered. What we need is prayers and compassion -- certainly not prying
> eyes trying to dissect every move we make."
> Karisma is too distraught to talk. The unexpected end of her marriage and
> the ensuing efforts to intimidate her through legal means (once again the
> critical question: Who leaked out Karisma's deeply personal e-mail to the
> press?) has shattered her.
> Karisma was strong enough to face the media, else she wouldn't have been
> able to make any categorical statements. Her lawyers have forbidden her from
> making any statement that could be used against her in court.
> But Kareena vows to fight it out.
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