got it.  thanks.  enjoy your weekend and break from me.

On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 1:49 PM Thomas Eckardt <thomas.ecka...@thockar.com>
wrote:

> from the analyzer GUI:
>
> Note: Analysis is performed using the current spam database, hashes and
> lists -- if yours was rebuilt since the time the mail was received, you'll
> receive a different result. This also applies to the feature matching
> results, they may be diffent from the results when the mail was received. *All
> feature matching results are shown **stateless* - which means for
> *example*: if '*noprocessing*' and a '*RBL/DNSBL* hit' is shown here, in
> the real mail processing, *the RBL check may be skipped* because of the 
> *noprocessing
> state*.
>
>
> Yes, there is no example for the possible combinations related to '
> heloBlacklistIgnore' and all the other 'helo' settings, lists, hashes ...
> but who would need them?
>
> Thomas
>
>
>
>
>
> Von:        "K Post" <nntp.p...@gmail.com>
> An:        "ASSP development mailing list" <
> assp-test@lists.sourceforge.net>
> Datum:        30.04.2021 17:39
> Betreff:        Re: [Assp-test] HeloBlacklistIgnore still matching helo?
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> and there's my answer to " What could I be doing wrong / misunderstanding?"
> *I didn't realize that analyze didn't consider heloBlacklistIgnore.*
> I don't see that indicated in the gui.  Analyze says that it uses the
> current db, hashes, and lists.  I, apparently incorrectly, thought that
> "lists" would include the heloBlaklistIgnore list.
>
> I'm sorry to once again have frustrated you with my questions.  if there's
> a better way I could have asked what I did, or somewhere else I should be
> asking, I'm all ears.
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 10:31 AM Thomas Eckardt <
> *thomas.ecka...@thockar.com* <thomas.ecka...@thockar.com>> wrote:
> >in my heloBlacklistIgnore and then a mail comes in with helo
> *mta-xx-xxx.sparkpostmail.com* <http://mta-xx-xxx.sparkpostmail.com/> *it
> is still getting scored** due to a known bad helo.*
>
> show me a single logline from a processed mail where this happens !
>
>
> >I see:  HELO Blacklist: '*mta-85-129.sparkpostmail.com*
> <http://mta-85-129.sparkpostmail.com/>'
>
> this is the result line from the analyzer - the analyzer shows every
> match, it's on YOU to know that a heloBlacklistIgnore match will skip the
> helo checks for real mail processing
>
> Thomas
>
>
>
>
>
> Von:        "K Post" <*nntp.p...@gmail.com* <nntp.p...@gmail.com>>
> An:        "ASSP development mailing list" <
> *assp-test@lists.sourceforge.net* <assp-test@lists.sourceforge.net>>
> Datum:        30.04.2021 15:38
> Betreff:        Re: [Assp-test] HeloBlacklistIgnore still matching helo?
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> I guess I was unclear in my question.  I'm not saying that a match in
> heloBlacklistIgnore is *causing *scoring, I'm saying that I have
> *.*sparkpostmail.com* <http://sparkpostmail.com/>
> in my heloBlacklistIgnore and then a mail comes in with helo
> *mta-xx-xxx.sparkpostmail.com* <http://mta-xx-xxx.sparkpostmail.com/>* it
> is still getting scored due to a known bad helo.*
>
> I see:  HELO Blacklist: '*mta-85-129.sparkpostmail.com*
> <http://mta-85-129.sparkpostmail.com/>'
> but why would it be on the blacklist (and get the score assigned for that)
> when I have *.*sparkpostmail.com* <http://sparkpostmail.com/> in my
> heloBlacklistIgnore?
>
>
>
>
> On Fri, Apr 30, 2021 at 2:41 AM Thomas Eckardt <
> *thomas.ecka...@thockar.com* <thomas.ecka...@thockar.com>> wrote:
> If I ask you about something that does'nt exists in assp ..... what it is
> ???? LOL
>
> Thomas
>
>
>
>
>
> Von:        "K Post" <*nntp.p...@gmail.com* <nntp.p...@gmail.com>>
> An:        "ASSP development mailing list" <
> *assp-test@lists.sourceforge.net* <assp-test@lists.sourceforge.net>>
> Datum:        29.04.2021 16:04
> Betreff:        Re: [Assp-test] HeloBlacklistIgnore still matching helo?
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> The line in heloBlacklistIgnore is
> *.*sparkpostmail.com* <http://sparkpostmail.com/>
> There's no score associated to that line, but I must not be understanding
> what you're asking or what heloBlacklistIgnore does - how could there be a
> score assosiated with this?.  Doesn't heloBlacklistIgnore just tell ASSP
> not to pay any attention to helo's that match that list when scoring a
> message?  if so, shouldn't the line above make it so that a helo from
> *mta-xx-xxx.sparkpostmail.com* <http://mta-xx-xxx.sparkpostmail.com/>
> isn't considered when scoring the message?
>
> If you're asking for my hlValencePB, that's set to 15, but I don't know
> how that comes into play here.
>
> As always, much appreciated.
> ken
>
>
>
> On Mon, Apr 26, 2021 at 2:17 AM Thomas Eckardt <
> *thomas.ecka...@thockar.com* <thomas.ecka...@thockar.com>> wrote:
> How high is the scrore used by assp for 'heloBlacklistIgnore' ?
>
> Thomas
>
> RTM,RTM,RTM,RTM
>
>
>
>
>
> Von:        "K Post" <*nntp.p...@gmail.com* <nntp.p...@gmail.com>>
> An:        "ASSP development mailing list" <
> *assp-test@lists.sourceforge.net* <assp-test@lists.sourceforge.net>>
> Datum:        25.04.2021 10:14
> Betreff:        [Assp-test] HeloBlacklistIgnore still matching helo?
> ------------------------------
>
>
>
> I have
> *.*sparkpostmail.com* <http://sparkpostmail.com/>
> in my heloBlacklistIgnore, yet messages from
> *mta-85-129.sparkpostmail.com* <http://mta-85-129.sparkpostmail.com/>
> seem to still be scored based on that. From analyze:
>
> • HELO Blacklist: '*mta-85-129.sparkpostmail.com*
> <http://mta-85-129.sparkpostmail.com/>'
>
> What could I be doing wrong / misunderstanding?
>
> Thanks
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