For me, it's not actually a problem as big as what you experiment, but I have a 
few users that are receiving those backscatter, for now it's ok, since it's 2-3 
mails a day, but If I could block those, I'll be happy :)




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>>I just don't care when when backscatter is directed to nonexistent
>>addresses, that's not a problem. Problem is when a user start getting
>>thousand bounces per hour, with all kind of exotic messages. And I'm
>>trying
>>to keep his mailbox readable.
>
>
>Fine, its not a problem for you. But obviously others did not
>implement user validation at the front end (ASSP). So I was talking
>here to these "others".
>
>I also running my own backscatter prevention system, so we both have
>our nice systems.

Ok, I thought that was obvious, it's quite easy not to generate backscatter
and filter mail directed to not-existent users. What I find a little more
complex is to filter backscatter when it's directed to valid mailboxes.

My plain strategy is :

- Always Filter mail with forged message-id in body (often ndn etc quote
original headers, and I know what my real message-id look like)
- create a list with most of MTAs my clients use (hundreds different hosts)
and use for ISPIP
- regex/spambomb NOT for ispip
- block (mostly per subject) backscatter/ndn/etc.

Right now the first step can't be done per all mail, but is subject to ispip
whitelisting.

Will you share your magic BackscatterPreventionSystem with us fritz ?

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