The IP300/301 has the power jack, the IP500/501 the inline cable.

PaulH

On Sun, 2006-03-05 at 20:56 -0700, Douglas Garstang wrote:
> Not true. Some do and some don't. Some have a place to plug a separate DC 
> adapter, and some have the inline power, where the adapter plugs into the 
> ethernet cable. Not sure which ones are newer, and which are older.
> 
>       -----Original Message----- 
>       From: Michael Welter [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] 
>       Sent: Sun 3/5/2006 6:50 PM 
>       To: Asterisk Users Mailing List - Non-Commercial Discussion 
>       Cc: 
>       Subject: Re: [Asterisk-Users] Polycom 501 power over ethernet
>       
>       
> 
>       The IP501 does not have a power jack.  You'll need one of the Polycom
>       cables.
>       
>       William M Conlon wrote:
>       > My recollection of the marketing fluff was that we would just use our
>       > legacy network (cables) and the devices at both ends would figure out
>       > whether they were sourcing, sinking, or neither.  In the case of the
>       > 501, it's the special Polycom cable, either with or without provision
>       > for an AC power adapter, that powers the phone.  That's what I meant 
> by
>       > saying the '501' itself is not compliant with 802.3af -- it needs a
>       > separate thingamajig [tech jargon :)]to be powered.
>       >
>       > Anyway I had hoped that I could just plug a CAT-5 patch cable from my
>       > RJ45 wall outlet into the phone.
>       >
>       > On Mar 5, 2006, at 5:17 PM, Michael Welter wrote:
>       >
>       >> As I understand 802.3af, the phones go through a negotiation with the
>       >> unit supplying the power.  I don't think it's a matter of -48VDC on a
>       >> particular pair.  I remember a schematic from years ago--it had each
>       >> of the receive pair and the transmit pair going into a transformer
>       >> winding,  and that winding had a center tap for PoE.  This is not
>       >> something that *I* am going to screw with.
>       >>
>       >> The IP501 telephone set is the same for both PoE and local power. 
>       >> With the PoE cable, the 802.3af electronics (the negotiator) is a
>       >> plastic thing in the cable.  For the local power, there is a plastic
>       >> thingie toward the wall end of the cable, and you plug the wall wart
>       >> into the plastic thingie.  <Notice the advanced technical jargon 
> here>
>       >>
>       >> With local power, there is still only one cable one the desk--the
>       >> power plugs into the cable towards the wall.  Except for a power
>       >> interruption, this has all the advantages of PoE.
>       >>
>       >>
>       >>
>       >> William M Conlon wrote:
>       >>> I saw that Polycom offered a cable (not stocked anywhere), at $40 a
>       >>> pop for 802.3af connections.  That's what made me think the phone
>       >>> itself is NOT 802.3af compliant.
>       >>> Presumably, for $40, there's more than a fuse in that special cable.
>       >>> On Mar 5, 2006, at 4:31 PM, Paul Hales wrote:
>       >>>> For Polycom IP500/501's and IP300/301's you need a special polycom 
> POE
>       >>>> cable.
>       >>>>
>       >>>> When you buy Polycom phones you can usually specify POE or 
> powerpack.
>       >>>>
>       >>>> PaulH
>       >>>>
>       >>>> On Sun, 2006-03-05 at 16:23 -0800, William M Conlon wrote:
>       >>>>> When I bought two Polycom 501 SIP phones, I naively thought they 
> were
>       >>>>> Power-over-Ethernet (IEEE 802.3af) because they were "powered over
>       >>>>> ethernet."  Silly me.
>       >>>>>
>       >>>>> Polycom must have some odd voltage or funny way of injecting the
>       >>>>> power, because the POE switch I bought for them (Netgear [EMAIL 
> PROTECTED])
>       >>>>> won't power them, though if I use the Polycom-supplied AC adapter 
> and
>       >>>>> ethernet power injector cable, they work with the switch in either
>       >>>>> its powered or unpowered ports.
>       >>>>>
>       >>>>> Anyhow, I hadn't seen any mention of how people power these 
> phones,
>       >>>>> as I had planned on centralizing phone power on a UPS to supply my
>       >>>>> Asterisk server and POE switch.  Now the question is:
>       >>>>>
>       >>>>> Can the Polycom AC-powered injector be used with a standard 
> ethernet
>       >>>>> patch cable:
>       >>>>>
>       >>>>>     switch :: Polycom injector cable :: RJ45 coupler :: patch 
> cable ::
>       >>>>> Polycom 501
>       >>>>>
>       >>>>> which would allow me to power the Polycom AC adapters by my UPS.  
> Or
>       >>>>> do I need to provide a UPS at each phone and run the ethernet like
>       >>>>>
>       >>>>>     switch :: patch cable :: RJ45 coupler :: Polycom injector 
> cable ::
>       >>>>> Polycom 501
>       >>>>>
>       >>>>> thanks.
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