I have found that the g729 implementation on asterisk isn't as fantastic as
I would have hoped.  It works, it saves you bandwidth, but I find that if
you're talking to your asterisk box or transcoding the call quality doesn't
compare to talking between two quality g729 enabled devices.

If asterisk doesn't put its foot in the door, the quality of the call is
better overall.  That's the main result I got from my testing, but I wasn't
using Zap hardware so maybe if you're using a PRI card, you'll have
different results.

Another thing to note, if you're making a call through an asterisk box, once
the call has gone through, your license won't be occupied, so if you're
dealing with routing between endpoints, you technically shouldn't be using
up any licenses for those calls.  Some of my testing ended up picking the
wrong codec for whatever reason so my box was transcoding and having the
license made that work as opposed to not.

- Ian

On 5/9/06, Reza - Asterisk Enthusiast <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:

*Michael Tupper, Ian Darwin:   *

Thanks to both of you for providing me unique perspectives!   There is a
famous Chinese saying, "When in doubt, ask 3 subject matter experts"...  or
something like that :).  I have found the comfort and peace I was looking
for in justifying my costs :).   See...  my problem is not money...  but the
question...  do I REALLY need to spend that money...  and the product and/or
service that I need, do I REALLY NEED IT...  ??!!    And if the answer is
yes, I don't mind spending the bux.  Sometimes (in most cases) its best not
to be more stubborn than the machine.   Of course if I have a free choice, I
would prefer that.

Michael:  " In the professional carrier wholesale market, SIP/g729 has
become the de facto for VoIP interconnects. " -- I think you hit it dead in
the Bulls Eye!

After speaking with a bunch of carriers - and these are Tier 1 carriers --
it appears truly, that g729 is the de facto.  Not necessarily it is the best
technology - but simply because major Tier 1 carriers backed up by the
Mighty US Dollars (Might Cannuck Dollars catching up) are using the
proprietary switch that utilizes g729.

Ian as per your quote, " once you pay the Danegeld, you never get rid of
the Dane ",  I regret to inform that you are terribly CORRECT :).  It is
not my intention to foster them, but it is my intention to make money with
reasonable investment.  A lot of people in the open source community will
disagree with the licensing of g729 - but given the circumstances that one
wishes to inter-connect with Tier 1 carriers, a $10 per license I believe is
reasonable, when you compare the overall cost of other g729 solutions.

Now looks like I have to balance the best of both worlds...  and in my
situation for inter-connectivity with the carriers, as per business
endeavors, I'm left with only 1 choice given the circumstances.  When
compared to actually purchasing a switch capable of g729 - I'm looking at
BIG BUX.   If you want to purchase a Cisco switch, then looking you are
looking at even bigger bux!  The cost of the licenses I am happy to bite the
bullet as I will be able to recuperate the cost within a month.  I think it
will only be a matter of time before the Tier 1 carriers will embrace and
implement 100% free open source codecs.

So,  just in case any of you fall in my shoes of making a business
decision, below are the comparison for g729 solutions:

 A 16 port Quintum Switch ~ $2,900 US
A 12 channel Cisco Switch ~ $2,400 US
A 20 channel License G729 ~ $200 US

Asterisk Voip Server with 20 seat G729 enabled ~ Priceless
For everything else, there is MasterCard!

So I swiped my MasterCard and got what I need :)  Oh sorry!  Make that
Visa.

*Cheers!*


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