Thanks for all your responses. Apologies for the delayed reply - this mailing 
list is a real pain to use (wouldn't a phpBB forum be easier?), and for some 
reason my first post hasn't showed up on 
http://www.mail-archive.com/[email protected]/index.html
(yet later ones have), which doesn't give me much confidence.

As a couple of you pointed out, I can use PuTTy or the web interface to edit or 
restore my config files to the flash drive once I can get into the box. And 
once I can edit the config files, I can fix the IP address to anything I like. 
This still leaves the problem of guessing the IP address the first time, though.

> From: Michael A <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> ...I used the free IP SCAN utility to find out the IP 
> address...

I'm not sure which utility you mean exactly, but although this would speed up 
the guesswork it doesn't really solve the problem, it's still trial and error.

> On 12/10/06, vb <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote:
> If possible, log into the console as root...

Chicken and egg. :-(

> ... if no console access, check your dhcp
> server's table of addresses and figure it out from
> there.

Still trial and error, ultimately. And accessing the DHCP server in my existing 
router is a pain.

> Tom Lynn wrote:
> > syslog captures the dhcp lease and it's ip address nicely.

Same comment as above.

> From: Carla Schroder <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> ...null modem cables are cheep, and they are 
> necessities for administering headless boxes like the 
> Soekris. Don't handicap yourself by not having one...

[Some extremely useful links snipped, many thanks for these]

True, and I've now acquired one, but I still think it's a bit much to expect 
the average user to buy one, and setting up Hyperterm is a nightmare 
(especially since the required bit rate isn't documented anywhere that I could 
find!).

I'm convinced that there is *no way* that a "real" product would ever be 
shipped with a fundamental limitation like this. All the routers, VoIP devices, 
modems etc. that I have ever used have had some way of either discovering the 
DHCP-assigned IP address (a display or voice prompt), or a way of configuring a 
fixed address (a configuration file, DIP switches, thumbwheels), or they just 
come with a fixed address that will usually work, like 192.168.0.100.

Surely it should be fairly easy in this case to read the address from a config 
file that could be edited before first use somehow?

Phil McKerracher
www.mckerracher.net





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