On Mon December 6 2010 15:30:00 Jonathan Guerin wrote: > Hi, > > > I've been doing some investigation into the behaviour of contention > windows and retransmissions. > > Firstly, I'll just describe the test scenario and setup that I have. I > have 3 Via x86 nodes with Atheros AR5001X+ cards. They are tethered to > each other via coaxial cables, into splitters. They have 20dB of fixed > attenuation applied to each antenna output, plus a programmable > variable attenuator on each link. One node acts as a sender, one as a > receiver, and one simply runs a monitor-mode interface to capture > packet traces. All 3 are running kernel version 2.6.37-rc2. The sender > and receiver are configured as IBSS stations and are tuned to 5.18 > GHz. > > Here's a really dodgy ASCII diagram of the setup: > > S-----[variable attenuator]-----R > > > > +------------M-------------------------+ > > where S is the Sender node, R is the Receiver node and M is the > Monitoring capture node. > > > Secondly, I have written a program which will parse a captured pcap > file from the Monitoring station. It looks for 'chains' of frames with > the same sequence number, and where the first frame has the Retry bit > set to false in the header and all following have it set to true. Any > deviation from this, and the program drops the current chain without > including it in its stats, and looks for the next chain matching these > requirements. It averages the amount of time per transmission number > (i.e. the average of all transmissions which were the first, second, > third etc. for a unique sequence number). The transmission time of a > frame is the amount of time between the end of the frame and the end > of the previous. It tracks these 'chains' of frames with the same > sequence number. It considers the last transmission number in each > chain as the 'final' transmission. > > Finally, the link is loaded using a saturated UDP flow, and the data > rate is fixed to 54M and 36M. This is specified in the output. The > output is attached below. > > The output describes the fixed link data rate, the variable > attenuator's value, the delivery ratio, and the number of transmitted > packets/s. I've added a discussion per result set. Each line outputs > the transmission number, the average transmission time for this > number, the total number of transmissions, the number of frames which > ended their transmissions at this number (i.e. where the chain ended > its final transmission - this is equivalent to the retransmission > value from the Radiotap header + 1), and the average expected > transmission time for all that particular transmission number in all > chains. This is calculated using the airtime calculations from the > 802.11a standard, with the receipt of an ACK frame, as well as a SIFS > (16us), which is 28us. If the transmission did not receive an ACK, a > normal ACK timeout is 50 us, but ath5k appears to have this set to 25 > us, so the value shouldn't be too far out what to expect. > > The header to each result refers to the rate it was fixed at, as well > as the variable attenuation being added to it. The link also has a > fixed 40dB of attenuation both to protect the cards, as well as give > the necessary range for the variable attenuator to control link > quality. > > ==> iperf_33M_rate_36M_att_1dB.pcap.txt <== (good link, 100% delivery) > Average time per TX No: > TXNo Avg No Final ExpectedAvg > 1 477.604980 10463 10462 509 > Overall average: 477.604980 > > [Discussion:] Nothing, appears normal. > > > ==> iperf_33M_rate_36M_att_18dB.pcap.txt <== (lossy link, but still > 100% delivery) > Average time per TX No: > TXNo Avg No Final ExpectedAvg > 1 476.966766 9808 8138 509 > 2 550.320496 1663 1403 581 > 3 697.552917 255 218 725 > 4 1028.756714 37 30 1013 > 5 1603.428589 7 7 1589 > Overall average: 494.514618 > > [Discussion:] Nothing, appears normal. Contention window appears to > double normally. > > ==> iperf_33M_rate_36M_att_19dB.pcap.txt <== (lossy link, but still > 100% delivery) > Average time per TX No: > TXNo Avg No Final ExpectedAvg > 1 477.510437 14893 8653 509 > 2 546.149048 6205 3624 581 > 3 692.270203 2561 1552 725 > 4 980.565857 1002 596 1013 > 5 1542.079956 400 252 1589 > 6 2758.693848 147 89 2741 > 7 4971.500000 56 32 5045 > 8 4689.043457 23 15 5045 > 9 4487.856934 7 3 5045 > 10 442.250000 4 3 5045 > 11 488.000000 1 1 5045 > Overall average: 580.976807 > > [Discussion:] Contention window appears to double until a plateau from > 7 through 9. Weirdly, the contention window appears to be drop again > from 10, but > there are too few frames to draw a conclusion. > > ==> iperf_33M_rate_36M_att_21dB.pcap.txt <== (lossy link, < 1% delivery) > TXNo Avg No Final ExpectedAvg > 1 485.390198 1940 3 509 > 2 479.113434 1922 2 581 > 3 479.681824 1914 0 725 > 4 485.083038 1903 1 1013 > 5 492.088135 1895 4 1589 > 6 508.322510 1876 1 2741 > 7 524.697876 1870 1 5045 > 8 543.054382 1857 0 5045 > 9 522.970703 1842 0 5045 > 10 478.204132 1837 0 5045 > 11 476.520782 1828 0 5045 > 12 477.531342 1818 0 5045 > 13 476.743652 1810 0 5045 > 14 478.936554 1797 0 5045 > 15 480.699097 1788 0 5045 > 16 482.734314 1784 0 5045 > 17 491.608459 1775 0 5045 > 18 497.458984 1767 1 5045 > 19 495.067932 1752 7 5045 > 20 478.102417 1738 295 5045 > 21 475.128845 1436 1402 5045 > 22 492.692322 26 0 5045 > 23 471.576935 26 0 5045 > 24 466.884613 26 0 5045 > 25 476.269226 26 0 5045 > 26 462.192322 26 0 5045 > 27 480.961548 26 1 5045 > 28 463.600006 25 24 5045 > Overall average: 491.068359 > > [Discussion:] Contention does not appear to increase, and the number > of transmission per frame is very large. This behaviour is replicated > with the 54M scenario when a link is extremely lossy. > > ==> iperf_33M_rate_54M_att_1dB.pcap.txt <== (good link, 2400 packets/s) > Average time per TX No: > TXNo Avg No Final ExpectedAverage > 1 365.551849 23957 23935 393 > 2 409.571442 21 21 465 > Overall average: 365.590424 > > [Discussion: ] Appears relatively normal. > > ==> iperf_33M_rate_54M_att_10dB.pcap.txt <== (lossy link, but still > 100% delivery, 1500 packets/s) > Average time per TX No: > TXNo Avg No Final ExpectedAverage > 1 364.501190 10134 5915 393 > 2 434.138000 4196 2461 465 > 3 579.482300 1721 1036 609 > 4 837.005859 682 397 897 > 5 1365.279175 283 155 1473 > 6 2572.007812 128 81 2625 > 7 4905.195801 46 27 4929 > 8 4985.947266 19 12 4929 > 9 4627.285645 7 4 4929 > 10 366.000000 3 1 4929 > 11 335.500000 2 2 4929 > Overall average: 473.477020 > > [Discussion: ] Appears fine, until transmission 10, which appears to > drop the contention window back to an equivalent first transmission > value, but not enough frames at this point to draw a conclusion. > > ==> iperf_33M_rate_54M_att_11dB.pcap.txt <== (lossy link, but still > 100% delivery, 680 packets/s) > Average time per TX No: > TXNo Avg No Final ExpectedAverage > 1 362.082825 2149 539 393 > 2 434.672485 1606 368 465 > 3 582.795288 1231 307 609 > 4 820.347107 919 237 897 > 5 1424.753296 673 194 1473 > 6 2626.403320 466 143 2625 > 7 4734.233887 308 83 4929 > 8 4830.244141 217 65 4929 > 9 4449.702637 148 33 4929 > 10 360.114044 114 36 4929 > 11 366.000000 78 20 4929 > 12 460.655182 58 20 4929 > 13 544.184204 38 9 4929 > 14 893.965515 29 7 4929 > 15 1361.409058 22 8 4929 > 16 2675.285645 14 2 4929 > 17 4239.500000 12 5 4929 > 18 3198.142822 7 2 4929 > 19 5111.799805 5 3 4929 > 20 1403.000000 2 1 4929 > Overall average: 1063.129883 > > [Discussion: ] Everything appears fine until, once again, transmission > 10, when the contention windows appears to 'restart' - it climbs > steadily until 17. After this point, there are not enough frames to > draw any conclusions. > > ==> iperf_33M_rate_54M_att_12dB.pcap.txt <== (lossy link, 6% delivery, > 400 packets/s) > Average time per TX No: > TXNo Avg No Final ExpectedAvg > 1 360.460724 4482 14 393 > 2 366.068481 4453 16 465 > 3 360.871735 4413 13 609 > 4 361.535553 4386 18 897 > 5 367.526062 4357 60 1473 > 6 360.003967 4283 3839 2625 > 7 361.778046 419 416 4929 > Overall average: 362.732910 > > [Discussion:] This exhibits the same problem as the extremely lossy > 36M link - the contention window does not appear to rise. Even with > enough frames to draw a good conclusion at transmission 6, the > transmission time average (360) is way below the expected average > (2625). > ==> END OF OUTPUT <== > > The question here is: why does ath5k/mac80211 send out so many > transmissions, and why does it vary so much based on link quality? > Additionally, why does it appear to 'reset' the contention window > after 9 retransmissions of a frame? > > Cheers, > > Jonathan
Hi Jonathan! This is a very interesting setup and test. I guess nobody has looked so closely yet... I think this is not necessarily ath5k related, but may be a bug of mac80211 or minstrel, but not sure yet, of course... It's normal, that the CW is reset after the retry limits are reached, this is what the standard says: "The CW shall be reset to aCWmin after every successful attempt to transmit an MPDU or MMPDU, when SLRC reaches dot11LongRetryLimit, or when SSRC reaches dot11ShortRetryLimit." (802.11-2007 p261) But it seems weird that there are so many retransmissions. The default maximum numbers of retransmissions should be 7 for short frames and 4 for long frames (dot11[Short|Long]RetryLimit), and this is what is set as defaults in mac80211 (local->hw.conf.short_frame_max_tx_count). Seems we are getting many retransmissions from minstel, i added some debug prints: *** txdesc tries 3 *** mrr 0 tries 3 rate 11 *** mrr 1 tries 3 rate 11 *** mrr 2 tries 3 rate 11 This seems to be the normal case and that would already result in 12 transmissions. Another thing that strikes me here is: why use multi rate retries if the rate is all the same? (Ignore the actual value of the rate, this is the HW rate code). Other examples: *** txdesc tries 2 *** mrr 0 tries 9 rate 12 *** mrr 1 tries 2 rate 13 *** mrr 2 tries 3 rate 11 = 16 transmissions in sum. *** txdesc tries 9 *** mrr 0 tries 3 rate 11 *** mrr 1 tries 9 rate 8 *** mrr 2 tries 3 rate 11 = 24 transmissions in sum. Again, rate[1] and rate[3] are the same, so why bother setting it up twice? bruno _______________________________________________ ath5k-devel mailing list ath5k-devel@lists.ath5k.org https://lists.ath5k.org/mailman/listinfo/ath5k-devel
