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I actually stand corrected

from the spec document:

"The "atom:content" element is a Content construct that conveys the content of the entry. atom:entry elements MAY contain one or more atom:content elements."

I could also use links as Eric suggested, but there is one last hurdle with either of these two tags. In terms of what we do with podcasting a publisher puts his mp3 file into an enclosure tag (sorry for the RSS speak) we find that file and download it, we log the url so make sure if another site points to said file that we do not download it again. It turns out this isn't best practice as the url may change or be mirrored rendering that level of tracking useless. Hence in our RSS module we introduces a GUID of sorts so the url/filename could change but the GUID should remain the same to indicate to a client that the content is the same thing, so don't bother downloading it again.

Sorry for putting all this new info out to you, I just wanted to give some background on what we have been discussing in RSS land for over a month so I can catch you guys up on it all.

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On 29-Nov-04, at 7:04 AM, Ray Slakinski wrote:


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Hello all,

As some of you may know, 'podcasting' is all the rage, it uses a tag called enclosure which is part of the RSS spec to distribute the content.

Basically the tag has a link to either a bittorrent file or audio file which a client like iPodderX (I'm a co-developer for) reads then works on accordingly. But the people that write software like iPodderX are running into a brick wall with RSS, and I now turn to Atom for assistance.

The biggest issue with enclosure that although the spec doesn't say one way or another you can not really do more than one enclosure per item. The reason this is a problem is that in a lot of cases a publisher wishes to provide a link to the mp3 file and the torrent file. If the torrent fails to download it or does not support bittorrent it fails back to the direct link. Or they want to provide notes to the show in text form or opml. It only makes sense to group them under the item tag instead of breaking them out one entry at a time.

In Atom I've been made aware of the <content src="http://somewhere"; type="whatever"> tag, which would work very much like the RSS enclosure, but also has the same restrictions as its only good for one per item. I'm hoping that since Atom is not final yet, that we can possibly see value in either extending the content tag or creating some sort of attachment/enclosure tag that allows for more than one per entry.

August and I worked on an RSS module to do something similar, but I've never liked modules for all kinds of reasons; Anyways, here is the spec: http://ipodderx.com/podcastRSSModule

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