Re: People who live in the US, what schools for the blind are the best?

Yeah, second-hand smoke is a big problem.  It's not as bad as firsthand of course, but it's still really not great.

Also: cigarettes in moderation aren't really a thing.  Coffee in moderation is very much a thing.  And if you drink soda you get about as much caffeine, which is the primary active ingredient of coffee (maybe the only active ingredient, but I'm not 100% on that).  Broadly speaking people who are addicted to coffee, it's not really an addiction.  Most people could stop in a few days.  Also it's not really that bad anyway.  Yes coffee can cause problems, but red meat can cause colon cancer (really, the key word is correlate and there is a difference, but that's somewhat off topic).  Enough vegetables is chronic constipation no problem.  Going to the beach?  Hope you like your increased risk of skin cancer.  And so on.  It's not about absolute effect, it's about relative effect.

Don't compare cigarettes to other things.  There's some evidence that wine can help with things like Alzheimers, or there was.  It's possible it has been discredited.  There's nothing like that for cigarettes.  All they do is literally kill your lungs while hooking you so bad that even a couple in high school can make you a smoker for life.  If you're lucky.  if you're not lucky you get all sorts of cancer and things from it.

My point being: banning coffee is ridiculous because it's not worse than anything else, but this thread is headed in a "but really we should ban it because it's like cigarettes" direction.  No.  If you want to start making claims like this, better get rid of chocolate, soda, and tea.  There's definitely a blurry line between weak-willed people and addiction-causing substances, but caffeine is barely on the addiction side of that line--you have to be incredibly weak-willed to fall into that trap and be unable to get out, around the same level of willpower to eat less bread or whatever.  At least let's make claims that make sense: we should ban coffee because child exploitation, for example.

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