On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 12:41:50AM -0400, Yichao Yu wrote: > On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 12:34 AM, Daniel Wallace > <danielwall...@gtmanfred.com> wrote: > > On Wed, Mar 13, 2013 at 12:17:13AM -0400, Yichao Yu wrote: > >> On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 11:49 PM, Daniel Wallace > >> <danielwall...@gtmanfred.com> wrote: > >> > On Tue, Mar 12, 2013 at 11:25:58PM -0400, Yichao Yu wrote: > >> >> Hi, > >> >> > >> >> A TU "gtmanfred" have just decided to remove one of my package just > >> >> one minute after he commented on the package pointed out the missing > >> >> package() in the PKGBUILD without any further explaination. > >> >> > >> >> The package is python-django-git[0], which I have uploaded 2-3 days > >> >> ago[1] to replacing two old packages including one with 3 vote that I > >> >> uploaded last Nov. > >> >> > >> >> I have already re-upload the package[0] since I don't think anything > >> >> is wrong with the package (especially not for the package name, I can > >> >> fix it if anything else with the package is wrong). And I just want to > >> >> know if that was a delete by mistake or a missing package() somehow is > >> >> enough reason to remove a package within ~1min after notifying the > >> >> maintainer now? > >> >> > >> >> Yichao Yu > >> >> > >> >> [0] https://aur.archlinux.org/packages/python-django-git/ > >> >> [1] > >> >> https://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/aur-general/2013-March/022494.html > >> > > >> > Please follow packageing guidelines, anything that touches $pkgdir > >> > should be inside the package() function. > >> > > >> > repackaging without a package() function has been deprecated > >> > https://mailman.archlinux.org/pipermail/pacman-dev/2010-April/010620.html > >> > > >> > and PKGBUILDs without a package() function have been depricated > >> > https://patchwork.archlinux.org/patch/515/ > >> > https://www.archlinux.org/todo/clean-up-pkgdir-usage/ > >> > >> I agree, and I have already fixed it. > >> > >> BUT, that is NOT what I am asking!! What I am REALLY asking here is > >> why did you simply remove the package!! > >> You can leave a comment (which you did 1min before you go right to the > >> incorrect last step), flag it out-of-date, send me a email, or even > >> disown it and correct it yourself according to the AUR two-week policy > >> if I refuse to update. Is it what you think a TU should do to remove > >> (without waiting for the shortest reasonable response time or even > >> attempting to improve) all non-standard/old PKGBUILD on AUR. > >> > >> It is fine if you have just removed it by accident (although I will > >> probably suggest to move the remove button and the flag-out-of-date > >> button farther away for TU if that's the case), but if you were doing > >> that on purpose, what you did is totally non-constructive. This is > >> definitely NOT what a TU should do. Let me remind you what a TU should > >> do is "check PKGBUILDs for minor mistakes, suggest corrections and > >> improvements"[1], I am not sure which of the three does "removing > >> package right away" belong to. > >> > >> [1] > >> https://wiki.archlinux.org/index.php/AUR_Trusted_User_Guidelines#The_TU_and_.5Bunsupported.5D > >> > >> > > >> > -- > >> > Daniel Wallace > >> > Archlinux Trusted User (gtmanfred) > >> > Georgia Institute of Technology > > > > If you read the front page of the AUR, you will note the following. > > > > Contributed PKGBUILDs must conform to the Arch Packaging Standards > > otherwise they will be deleted! > > OK, as you are happily deleting every single slightly non-standard AUR > packages, I want to ask on the mailinglist when did removing package > immediately becoming the rule. > > > > > https://aur.archlinux.org/ > > > > -- > > Daniel Wallace > > Archlinux Trusted User (gtmanfred) > > Georgia Institute of Technology
For the record, I have only deleted NEWLY updated packages that are
either.
A) Named incorrectly.
Someone uploads a -git or -svn package and doesn't name it -git or
-svn, it has no votes and no comments, so instead of waiting for it
to get to a point where it would have to be merged, I leave a note
explaining that it should be named correctly and then delete it.
B) it has no package() function.
I am not going through all of the aur and deleting everything
without a package() function. I am deleting newly uploaded packages
that don't have a package() function. I noticed yours had 3 votes,
I assumed it was because it was one of the first ones in my rss feed
of new packages to the aur, and one of the oldest since the last
time I had gone through them. If you check the AUR stats on teh
side of the home page, you will not that 1/4th of all packages in
the aur have never been updated. So instead of just leaving a note
to add a package() function I delete them because it is brand new,
almost no votes and usually no comments.
On this point, I don't believe we should be merging to any packages
which do not properly meet the Packaging Guidelines.
--
Daniel Wallace
Archlinux Trusted User (gtmanfred)
Georgia Institute of Technology
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