On Sat, 16 Sep 2017 20:49:42 -0400, brent s. wrote: >On 09/16/2017 08:36 PM, Ralf Mardorf wrote: >well, i'm not too worried about that because I don't get emailed every >time a maintainer uploads a bad PKGBUILD
Hi, as a user I always need to check PKGBUILDs and other content of the tarballs. Sometimes the content is terrible and it's time wasting even if I should ignore the issues completely instead of fixing them and writing the maintainer. >> On Sat, 16 Sep 2017 20:19:56 -0400, brent s. wrote: >> All jesting aside, pin a comment, if there should be a highly >> recurrent issue for some users. > >and yet even then, they still somehow manage to not read it, which is >why I'm tempted by a more proactive (or rather, proactively reactive) >and direct approach. The community could help the AUR maintainers. I don't maintain a package, but e.g. a few days ago a maintainer of a package pinned one of my explanations. Some users didn't follow the latest news regarding the Perl library path change and I explained that they should follow the advices of the latest news and when rebuilding packages using an AUR helper, to ensure that the build dependency chain is followed in the correct order. Apart from not following the latest news/announcements the most recurring issue is, that users don't import public keys, while the output they post by a comment says that they need to import the public key. Another user could help the maintainer by following the comments and paste how to import a key from the clipboard. I'm doing this all the times. The issue you mentioned isn't a common issue. Résumé: You are not forced to maintain AUR packages. I'm not forced to use any tarball from AUR at all. We as a community could help each other. Once we explained how to solve the issue to somebody who didn't read official announcements, FAQ, pinned comments and even does not copy the output to the Google search widget, before coping it to the AUR comment widget, this persons might change this behaviour and will help other inexperienced users, too. If we are patient we waste less time, than with writing hate mails about "help vampires", "rude jerks" and "clueless morons" and even changing the policy or using a robot for auto-responses won't change the real world. We always need to temper the wind to the shorn lamb, since there always will be a shorn lamb, whatever we do. Being patient does cost us less energy, than being annoyed. Regards, Ralf
