Re: [Aus-soaring] Potential dangers in the sport of gliding

Mon, 29 Feb 2016 17:19:56 -0800 

I thought that's what dive brakes were for.


Mike






At 10:12 AM 3/1/2016, you wrote:
There have been quite a few accidents in recent years due to misjudging the approach to landing and undershooting.
Clearly if the angle of approach seems too low a pilot will take option B and make an outlanding. It is probably much easier to see this in a short wing Kookaburra than it is in a 50:1 glider.  In a high performance glider the difference between a safe approach and a marginal one is about 1 degree. Worse still if the area adjacent to the runway is unlandable and hence the outlanding decision must be taken quite a way from the airfield.  Â
Hence when flying a modern glider it is probably a good idea to add an additional safety marginÂ
On Mon, Feb 29, 2016 at 10:12 PM, Gary Stevenson <<mailto:gstev...@bigpond.com>gstev...@bigpond.com> wrote: 

Hello Bob,

Good to see you in print again.

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For newer members to our sport, Let me say that Bob has “been there and done that” in reference to most elements of our sport. On this particular aspect of our sport ..... yep he has  “ been there and done that” too, having looked Death in the eye after he had a nasty landing discussion with a fence. 

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Again for newer members, I have attached what is perhaps the seminal article (1993), on this subject, by a guy named Bruno Gantenbrink, (now another old fogey). However he was not always an old fogey, and you might be a bit surprised at some of the tricks he got up to! 

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I noted Richard Frawley’s one line comment with some surprise: Totally irrelevant here, but it could be the basis of a new thread: However I expect that this topic has already been done to death, so is not new. 

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Regards.

Gary

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From: Aus-soaring [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au] On Behalf Of Bob Ward 
Sent: Monday, 29 February 2016 7:43 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Pete Cesco on TV

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If Peter Cesco with his myriad experience does not know that gliding is many times more dangerous than the drive to the airport, then I am truly amazed. In my forty nine years continuous participation with the sport, I can now count thirteen people I knew who have perished whilst perusing gliding. Two of these were members of my own club, and several were competition associates.
I do not have any answer as to how we promote our sport if we are honest and face up to the fact that it is essentially “bloody dangerous” . This is of course a dilemma facing the GFA and individuals or groups trying to promote our sport. However I cringe when I hear glider pilots try to perpetuate the old myth “the most dangerous part of gliding is the drive to the airport” 

Otherwise I agree that Peter’s TV spot was a creditable performance.

Regards

Bob Ward

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From: <mailto:glenn...@bigpond.com>Glenn McLean

Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 6:04 PM
To: <mailto:aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au>Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. 

Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Pete Cesco on TV

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Thanks David.
Glenn

On 2/29/2016 6:41 PM, David Holmes wrote:

HI Glen

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Is this what you want?

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<http://www.soaringspot.com/en_gb/2016-nsw-state-championships-lake-keepit-gld-2016/results>http://www.soaringspot.com/en_gb/2016-nsw-state-championships-lake-keepit-gld-2016/results
<http://www.soaringspot.com/en_gb/2016-nsw-state-championships-lake-keepit-gld-2016/results>Soaring Spot :: 2016 NSW State Championships 

<http://www.soaringspot.com>www.soaringspot.com

Lake Keepit Gld, Australia, 27 February 2016 – 5 March 2016 ...

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Kind Regards,


David

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From: Aus-soaring <mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au>mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au on behalf of Glenn McLean <mailto:glenn...@bigpond.com>mailto:glenn...@bigpond.com 
Sent: Monday, 29 February 2016 6:34 PM
To: <mailto:aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au>aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Pete Cesco on TV

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Hi Derek,
Any idea on how to access info about the NSW State Comps? I looked at the keepit website and it goes nowhere. 
Regards
Glenn

On 2/29/2016 4:29 PM, Derek wrote:

Any idea why he didn’t land on the clear strip just to the right?

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From: Aus-soaring [<mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au>mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au] On Behalf Of Mark Newton 
Sent: Monday, February 29, 2016 1:54 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Pete Cesco on TV

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On Feb 29, 2016, at 1:50 PM, Anthony Smith <<mailto:anthony.sm...@adelaide.on.net>anthony.sm...@adelaide.on.net> wrote: 

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Which show was it on?

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<https://au.news.yahoo.com/video/watch/30949880/adelaide-doctor-recovering-in-hospital-after-glider-crash/#page1>https://au.news.yahoo.com/video/watch/30949880/adelaide-doctor-recovering-in-hospital-after-glider-crash/#page1

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