And finally we can put a dog in the cockpit to bite the pilot if he touches anything important!!
It's an old joke but relevant and in the same sentiment as your response :-) ____________________________________________________________________________ _____________ Ross McLean From: Aus-soaring [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au] On Behalf Of Mike Borgelt Sent: Wednesday, 29 June 2016 5:50 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] autopilots, cheating Depends how you define it and what level of help you consider cheating. We already have total energy (automatically removes effects of pilot induced airspeed changes aka "stick thermals" so you don't do this mentally. We have netto which removes the effect of glider sink rates at different speeds so you don't have to estimate this. Speed command - a simple push or pull to fly at the correct speed instead of tables or MacCready rings A final glide computer. Wind estimation algorithms instead of estimating wind speed and direction from drift in thermals , drift of clouds, smoke and dust etc. GPS to eliminate navigation as a task or skill required to fly well. It also eliminates the old skill of going around turnpoints efficiently. The real rot started there BTW. The Danes seriously suggested at IGC level to ban GPS in gliders around 1991. It, along with all other radio navigation aids, was in fact banned in contests until the IGC allowed it. So we will now have an AI with a terrain map, meteorological data and task to generate likely best paths through the air and generate steering commands. I'm not sure of the virtue of a pilot being a wetware or meat servo to move the controls and center the yaw string. An automatic yaw string centering autopilot is pretty simple. Likewise move the flaps automatically to be in the right setting for the airspeed and g load (already done in the Duckhawk IIRC). Then connect the elevator to the speed command and tune the ride for hard or soft just like was done in the F-111. I guess we could leave the pilot with a small rotary knob to adjust the heading in response to the AI recommendations and how seriously the pilot regards them. Gliding ain't what it used to be. I think it will decline to be of interest to a very small number of people as a relic of the paleo aviation era. The future is likely to be small aircraft which take off and land vertically using distributed electric motors for that and a small piston engine for cruise with large amounts of electronics(oh a cube 10cm on a side I'd guess would be a large enclosure) and very few piloting skills required. Automatic traffic de-confliction. Will beat the hell out of cars for any serious distance. A number of companies are working on this including one mob that have a somewhat popular internet search engine. Mike At 04:54 PM 6/29/2016, you wrote: Content-Type: multipart/alternative; boundary="----=_NextPart_000_00AE_01D1D226.E2DB5430" Content-Language: en-au It might sound a little esoteric to some but in my opinion, cheating is not winning... ____________________________________________________________________________ _____________ Ross McLean From: Aus-soaring [ mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au <mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au> ] On Behalf Of Mike Borgelt Sent: Wednesday, 29 June 2016 12:42 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] (no subject) How are they going to tell? Even if there are no autopilot servos the AI in the PNA will be advising the optimum flight path, in its opinion. It will be interesting scrutinising the software in your flight computer. Mike At 09:32 AM 6/29/2016, you wrote: I note that the new Stemme S12 comes with an autopilot. We're very close to autonomous full-scale gliders. Are we going to be allowed to use autopilots in competitions? I look forward to the IGC minutes on this one ;) On Tue, Jun 28, 2016 at 4:26 PM, Mike Borgelt < mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com <mailto:mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com> > wrote: Wonder what this could do in a glider? http://www.newsweek.com/artificial-intelligence-raspberry-pi-pilot-ai-475291 Mike Borgelt Instruments - design & manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978 www.borgeltinstruments.com <http://www.borgeltinstruments.com/> tel:Â Â 07 4635 5784Â Â Â Â Â overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 mob: 042835 5784Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â Â :Â int+61-42835 5784 P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring Borgelt Instruments - design & manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978 www.borgeltinstruments.com <http://www.borgeltinstruments.com/> tel: 07 4635 5784 overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 mob: 042835 5784 : int+61-42835 5784 P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au http://lists.base64.com.au/listinfo/aus-soaring Borgelt Instruments - design & manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978 www.borgeltinstruments.com <http://www.borgeltinstruments.com/> tel: 07 4635 5784 overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 mob: 042835 5784 : int+61-42835 5784 P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia
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