The problem is not finding a solution to avoid start games and gaggles, first we need to convince the pilots that such practices are undesirable.
Some pilots think that start games and gaggles are an inherent part of competition flying and believe it is good experience to train for them so Australian pilots are better prepared for international competitions. Unfortunately that happens endangering the lives of all the other pilots who join in the same event. I am convinced we would see more people in competitions if they felt safer. A democratic vote to see what competition and potential competition pilots really want would be a good start, not just asking to the converted during pilots meetings at competitions. Jacques From: Allan Barnes [mailto:allan.j.bar...@gmail.com] Sent: Monday, 4 December 2017 10:26 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. <aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au>; Noel Roediger <roedi...@internode.on.net> Cc: gfafo...@glidingaustralia.org Subject: Re: [gfaforum] RE: [Aus-soaring] AAT tasking I feel that it is time we moved away from free starts, whether start line or start points. I favour moving to a series of GP heats - maybe only 5 or so pilots in each heat with a GP start asap after the last pilot in each heat has launched. No gaggles, start games or delaying tactics. Each day the pilots would be rotated to fly with a different set of opponents. After x days, pilots would be split into ranked groups for the ‘finals’. Winner of the ‘gold’ group would be the national champion. Pilots in the other groups would compete for the first place in their group. On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 at 21:15, Noel Roediger <roedi...@internode.on.net <mailto:roedi...@internode.on.net> > wrote: Mike. Along time ago I proposed at a Narromine Pilots meeting, after nearly being killed by a pilot playing for sheep stations at the start, there was a better way to go. I don’t think you flew those nats. One of the major problems apparent was too many aircraft converging on one point to start. Solution offered was to limit competitors to 2 per state in each class and each class comp. be flown from separate sites that had the ability to launch 14 sailplanes within a space established in their normal ops. That idea was accepted and I was elected to the sports committee which I attended on two occasions at my own cost with no GFA subsidy to put my case. It was a waste of my time as I couldn’t overcome the egos of WW and RW. Noel. From: Aus-soaring [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au] On Behalf Of Mike Borgelt Sent: Saturday, December 2, 2017 5:12 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] AAT tasking The AAT is seen as a way of mitigating the risks of mid airs in contests. Now let's see: Collision risk goes up as the SQUARE of the number of participants in any one contest. How do we reduce the total risk to find our champions? Mike Borgelt Instruments - design & manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978 <http://www.borgeltinstruments.com/> www.borgeltinstruments.com tel: 07 4635 5784 overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 mob: 042835 5784 : int+61-42835 5784 P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Gliding Australia Forum" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to gfaforum+unsubscr...@glidingaustralia.org. To post to this group, send email to gfafo...@glidingaustralia.org <mailto:gfafo...@glidingaustralia.org> . Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/a/glidingaustralia.org/group/gfaforum/. -- Allan Barnes. 0403-948-928 -- You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups "Gliding Australia Forum" group. To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an email to gfaforum+unsubscr...@glidingaustralia.org <mailto:gfaforum+unsubscr...@glidingaustralia.org> . To post to this group, send email to gfafo...@glidingaustralia.org <mailto:gfafo...@glidingaustralia.org> . Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/a/glidingaustralia.org/group/gfaforum/. <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> Virus-free. <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> www.avg.com
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