How about a postal survey? On Mon, Dec 4, 2017 at 10:31 PM, Jacques Graells <jacques....@gmail.com> wrote:
> The problem is not finding a solution to avoid start games and gaggles, > first we need to convince the pilots that such practices are undesirable. > > > > Some pilots think that start games and gaggles are an inherent part of > competition flying and believe it is good experience to train for them so > Australian pilots are better prepared for international competitions. > Unfortunately that happens endangering the lives of all the other pilots > who join in the same event. > > > > I am convinced we would see more people in competitions if they felt safer. > > > > A democratic vote to see what competition and potential competition pilots > really want would be a good start, not just asking to the converted during > pilots meetings at competitions. > > > > Jacques > > > > > > *From:* Allan Barnes [mailto:allan.j.bar...@gmail.com] > *Sent:* Monday, 4 December 2017 10:26 PM > *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. < > aus-soaring@lists.base64.com.au>; Noel Roediger <roedi...@internode.on.net > > > *Cc:* gfafo...@glidingaustralia.org > *Subject:* Re: [gfaforum] RE: [Aus-soaring] AAT tasking > > > > I feel that it is time we moved away from free starts, whether start line > or start points. I favour moving to a series of GP heats - maybe only 5 or > so pilots in each heat with a GP start asap after the last pilot in each > heat has launched. No gaggles, start games or delaying tactics. Each day > the pilots would be rotated to fly with a different set of opponents. After > x days, pilots would be split into ranked groups for the ‘finals’. Winner > of the ‘gold’ group would be the national champion. Pilots in the other > groups would compete for the first place in their group. > > > > > > On Mon, 4 Dec 2017 at 21:15, Noel Roediger <roedi...@internode.on.net> > wrote: > > Mike. > > > > Along time ago I proposed at a Narromine Pilots meeting, after nearly > being killed by a pilot playing for sheep stations at the start, there was > a better way to go. > > > > I don’t think you flew those nats. > > > > One of the major problems apparent was too many aircraft converging on > one point to start. > > > > Solution offered was to limit competitors to 2 per state in each class and > each class comp. be flown from separate sites that had the ability to > launch 14 sailplanes within a space established in their normal ops. > > > > That idea was accepted and I was elected to the sports committee which I > attended on two occasions at my own cost with no GFA subsidy to put my case. > > > > It was a waste of my time as I couldn’t overcome the egos of WW and RW. > > > > Noel. > > > > *From:* Aus-soaring [mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au > <aus-soaring-boun...@lists.base64.com.au>] *On Behalf Of *Mike Borgelt > *Sent:* Saturday, December 2, 2017 5:12 PM > *To:* Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. > *Subject:* Re: [Aus-soaring] AAT tasking > > > > > The AAT is seen as a way of mitigating the risks of mid airs in contests. > > Now let's see: Collision risk goes up as the SQUARE of the number of > participants in any one contest. How do we reduce the total risk to find > our champions? > > Mike > > > > > *Borgelt Instruments *- > *design & manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation since 1978* > www.borgeltinstruments.com > tel: 07 4635 5784 <(07)%204635%205784> overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 > <(07)%204635%205784> > mob: 042835 5784 : int+61-42835 5784 > P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Gliding Australia Forum" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to gfaforum+unsubscr...@glidingaustralia.org. > To post to this group, send email to gfafo...@glidingaustralia.org. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/a/ > glidingaustralia.org/group/gfaforum/. > > -- > > Allan Barnes. > 0403-948-928 <0403%20948%20928> > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Gliding Australia Forum" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to gfaforum+unsubscr...@glidingaustralia.org. > To post to this group, send email to gfafo...@glidingaustralia.org. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/a/ > glidingaustralia.org/group/gfaforum/. > > > > > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > > Virus-free. www.avg.com > <http://www.avg.com/email-signature?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient> > > > > -- > You received this message because you are subscribed to the Google Groups > "Gliding Australia Forum" group. > To unsubscribe from this group and stop receiving emails from it, send an > email to gfaforum+unsubscr...@glidingaustralia.org. > To post to this group, send email to gfafo...@glidingaustralia.org. > Visit this group at https://groups.google.com/a/ > glidingaustralia.org/group/gfaforum/. >
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