These guys in the FAI / IGC are totally out of touch with grass roots gliding, and the weekend pilot who's happy to get to a few camps every now and again and wants to claim a badge.
Is it any wonder that gliding is on the decline worldwide ? One wonders what's really wrong with a Garmin GPS track log ? Get your offical observer to clear the log, locking it in a tamper-proof sealed plastic box, secure the box in the aircraft, have your flight, and then get the OO to open the box and download the track log. So, instead of a Garmin GPS worth maybe $400, we now have a "IGC approved secure flight recorder" worth several thousand. All for what exactly ? Jason On Tue, 18 Nov 2003 21:46:22 +1030, Christopher Mc Donnell wrote > Or what they have in their hand. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Simon Hackett" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." > <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > Sent: Tuesday, 18 November 2003 9:32 PM > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Re: Logger approvals > > > One might also wonder whether these people have too much spare time on > their > > hands. Sheesh. > > > > Simon > > > > On 18/11/03 5:37 PM, "Mike Borgelt" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > wrote: > > > > > Anyone planning on breaking a world record this summer might like to > read > > > this.....saw it on r.a.s. this morning. > > > > > > You too might wonder what brought this on. > > > > > > Mike > > > > > > > > > > > > > > > This GFAC announcement has been prepared with the agreement of > > > the IGC GNSS Committee and the IGC Bureau. > > > > > > It was put out a couple of days ago on the FAI IGC email mailing lists > > > ([EMAIL PROTECTED] and [EMAIL PROTECTED]). A question that has been > > > asked is where the current 24 types of IGC-approved recorder and their > > > 10 manufacturers, are listed. This can be seen on: > > > > > > http://www.fai.org/gliding/gnss/igc_approved_frs.pdf > > > > > > ------------------------------------------------------------------- > > > > > > At the last IGC Plenary meeting earlier in 2003, a new approval level > > > for > > > GNSS flight recorders was agreed. This was for "all IGC badge and > > > distance diploma flights" and was in addition to the existing levels for > > > "all > > > flights" and "badge flights up to and including Diamonds". The latter > > > is > > > used for types of recorder units that do not have their own GPS receiver > > > but rely on a separate GPS unit connected to the recorder by cable. > > > > > > There are currently 24 models of IGC-approved GNSS recorder, from 10 > > > different manufacturers. GFAC has completed a review of legacy > > > recorders, the IGC-approvals of which go back as far as 1996. The > > > following principles have been agreed for the future: > > > > > > For world record flight claims, it is not considered suitable to have > > > recorders with one or more of the following characteristics: > > > > > > 1. No security microswitch or equivalent (this operates if the case is > > > opened). > > > > > > 2. Without electronic security giving the strength of systems such as > > > RSA > > > (public/private key systems) as assessed by GFAC and its experts in > > > electronic security. > > > > > > 3. No current manufacturer support (out of production and the original > > > manufacturer either no longer exists or is no longer dealing with them). > > > > > > Negotiations with appropriate manufacturers have been going on for some > > > time, and revised IGC-approval documents have been circulated to them. > > > Types of recorders affected will have IGC-approvals for the new "all IGC > > > badge flights and distance diploma" level. > > > > > > > > > Types of recorders affected with the main reason: > > > > > > Cambridge 10, 20 and 25 (not RSA or equivalent strength). > > > > > > Filser LX20 first batch (not RSA or equivalent strength, no > > > microswitch). > > > > > > Peschges VP8 (no microswitch, original manufacturer understood to be no > > > longer in the recorder business). > > > > > > Print Technik GR1000 (not RSA or equivalent strength, original > > > manufacturer no longer in the recorder business). > > > > > > > > > Timescale > > > > > > Filser LX20, Peschges VP8 and Print Technik GR1000 > > > - all on 1 January 2004. > > > > > > Cambridge 10, 20, 25 - the date of re-issue of IGC-approval documents as > > > part of present negotiations with the Horn Lake (MS) and Martinsville > > > (VA) > > > operations (this could be earlier than 1 January). > > > > > > > > > This announcement is made so that there will be no doubt of what is > > > happening, and why. > > > > > > The only pilots affected will be those planning to attempt world record > > > flights, for which other types of IGC-approved flight recorder must be > > > used. > > > > > > Any questions to the undersigned, > > > > _______________________________________________ > > Aus-soaring mailing list > > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > [EMAIL PROTECTED] > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list [EMAIL PROTECTED] http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
