A friend of mine is in the mountain bike video game, and if I recollect properly he used up-and-coming muso's tracks without paying significant royalties by promoting the music heavily in the credits and adding a promo on the bottom of the screen at each change in music. You of course still need to get the permission, but any new artist would probably welcome the publicity, and it may attract a younger crowd.= less terry towling hats!!
David Olsen -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Jason Armistead Sent: Friday, 30 July 2004 12:19 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Gliding Movies Adam One of the great problems with "cool music" is that it costs BIG $$$ to license its use legally. A few years ago at our Forbes summer camp, a local who did all sorts of documentaries, etc. came out and filmed during a day or two's flying, all using professional equipment. He got a couple of flights in a two-seater, and took some air-to-air footage as well. When edited it came down to just 6 minutes and 15 seconds of footage. Unfortunately, he added as backing music the remix of the Kenny Loggins track "Playing with the Boys", from the Top Gun soundtrack. It was not licensed, so effectively we got left with some well-edited gliding footage on DV tape without a usable soundtrack. I made some inquiries regarding the licensing fees, and we were looking at well over $10K in US Dollars. So bye, bye to that idea. And that was for a song which was released in 1986. Try and pick up the rights to a song released recently and you might get a very nasty surprise at the cost. One of our members who was in the TV production game got a friend who does studio music for their programs to create a sound-alike track, different enough to avoid the lawyers, but still with the same catchy sort of tune (enough to recognise its origins). However, to edit that back onto the tape also means I have to re-capture the other sounds of tugs taking off and taxiing, varios making that wonderful beep, beep noise, etc. This is simply not a trivial exercise, so until I get some serious time to spend on it, it remains an unfinished project. I sent a CD with the video converted to Windows Media format to Terry Cubley, the GFA Development Officer, with a suggestion that footage like ours might make a better promotion of the sport than re-hashed footage from Lucy Learns to Fly, but that it required GFA to spend serious $$$ if they wanted a well- known soundtrack behind it. My idea never flew ... but at least I tried. If someone out there is prepared to host the Windows Media version of this video, then I would try and do a quick edit of the soundtrack so that it could be viewed by those interested in this sort of project. Regards Jason Armistead On Fri, 30 Jul 2004 11:14:26 +1000, Adam Woolley wrote > G'day SDF and all, > > I've got a great clip of the UK Juniors just doing 'Competition > Finishes', close formation flying and aerobatics! Goes for 15 > minutes and is action pacted with cool background music! You can > check their website out at www.smokinvid.co.uk > > The juniors of Aus are hoping to do something very simular so we can > promote gliding to all ages, but mostly the under 30's! Just need a > couple of camera's now and we'll be able to get cracking! > > I'm just in the process of organising a uni student from the > Sunshine Coast to come to the Aussie Junior Nats and tape the whole > event! This is so we can get some professional footage to make a > promotional (What is gliding etc), exciting 'competition finish', > and a celebration of the FUN times had at the comp video's! > Hopefully we'll have this on DVD and VHS. > > The reason for organising this, is that I've seen so many cool > video's of hang-gliding and wanted to get something started like > this for all gliding competitions! I think we should definately try > to get something going for the Multi-Class Nats in Dalby, possibly > a uni student and pay for their accom and meals?? but the key point > is that we get some shots of ladies cruising around the grids in bikini's!! > > Regards, > Adam Woolley > Woolley Pup Pup > > P.s. I don't know how exciting a diamond height gain would be, but > the other's sound great! Just needs lots of colours, good music > (non of this opera stuff) and FUN times! > > >From: "skf1" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Reply-To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in > >Australia."<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >To: "'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in > >Australia.'"<[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > >Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Wicket Cam for Gliding Movie > >Date: Fri, 30 Jul 2004 02:31:34 +1000 > > > >Guys and Gals, > > > >What is the scope and target audience of the proposed Gliding Movie? > > > >The reason I am asking is, I have recently seen some great sport > >presentations 30 to 60 minutes on sports including paragliding, > >canoeing, scuba, and they make the activities look very exciting. I > >have not seen any similar footage on gliding. But I am sure that the > >right people with the right equipment could make our sport look > >exciting. Some one preparation for > >a long cross country, a safari, or a diamond height gain where no one has > >done one before. > > > >Personally I would like to see all our competitions filmed in a > >similar way we see cycling, car rallies, and other sports that are > >not contained in an arena filmed and packaged. The complete event is > >then presented in 40 to 60 minutes of footage - I believe that a > >Gliding Comp could be made to look very exciting. > > > >This kind of exposure would educate people that we don't fly round > >and > >round > >over airfields and it is a serious sport. This should attract people to > >gliding who may have written the sport off as not for them because of > >misconceptions. That's the dream - can we make it reality? > > > >What do think > > > >SDF > > _________________________________________________________________ > Love Movies? You'll love HomeScreen. Rental DVDs - no late fees! 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