>From my understanding PNG is still 12000ft before oxygen is required and USA
similar 12000ft with up to 14000ft for 30 mins.  Pre oxy requirement days
the rule from WW2 was 13000ft "take care" and 15000ft "beware" and I think
this is definately the upper limits. From the days of glider pilots going in
the RAAF decompression chamber there is no way I will go higher.    Ian M
----- Original Message -----
From: "rolf a. buelter" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
Sent: Monday, August 23, 2004 9:13 PM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Oxygen


> Brian, agree that oxy above 10,000 ft is the rule and sensible and
necessary
> like water and sensible nourishment. Are you suggesting to have the latter
> checked as well and apply 'unsuitable nourishment' penalties just as for
> airspace violations? The mind boggles with unlimited protest
possibilities.
> Rgds - Rolf  (WQF)
>
>
> >From: "Brian Wade" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Reply-To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in
> >Australia."<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in
> >Australia."<[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
> >Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Oxygen
> >Date: Mon, 23 Aug 2004 10:29:52 +1000
> >
> > >From the recent list discussion on oxygen systems, it is obvious that a
> >number of pilots are considering fitting oxygen systems to their
aircraft.
> >That is good news indeed, but I wonder how many have fully thought
through
> >the possible consequences of NOT using oxygen?
> >
> >The GFA Op Regs clearly state:
> >
> >"Supplementary oxygen shall be used by all occupants of a sailplane above
> >10,000 feet AMSL."
> >
> >I wonder what would be the insurance implications should there be a mid
air
> >collision at a height above 10,000 ft involving one or more gliders not
> >fitted with an oxygen system?
> >
> >For competitions, should not traces be checked for "oxygen altitude
> >violations" in the same way as they are for airspace violations and
> >appropriate penalties applied if oxygen was not carried?
> >
> >But quite apart from the regulations, this is surely a common sense
safety
> >issue.  Lack of oxygen, water and nourishment can all affect our
judgement
> >to the extent that we make seemingly unexplainable mistakes. As I see it
we
> >pay close attention to the latter, but not enough to the former.  Many
will
> >attest to the fact that fatigue levels are less when oxygen is used and
> >that it is beneficial to use it well below the statutory 10,000 ft level.
> >
> >
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