Now Roger, Don't be like that, the Kooka still has better performance than say a Janus CT in two respects:
1. The glide performance is still better than a CT with the motor out, locked and not turning. 2. The climb performance is still better than a CT WITH the motor out, locked and turning as intended. I see a challenge comming on... Cheers, Caleb Kookaburra Pecision Soaring Team -----Original Message----- From: "Roger Druce" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "'Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.'" <aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 18:44:45 +1000 Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Kooka Trim Of course he flies compentently. He was trained by George Lee in a decent two-seater, Nimbus 4DM. Fancy regressing to a Kookaburra. Oh, the shame of it! Roger Druce -----Original Message----- From: [EMAIL PROTECTED] [mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] On Behalf Of Patching Sent: Wednesday, 6 April 2005 4:26 PM To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Kooka Trim Your right Chris. (of course) Caleb belongs to that young whipersnapper generation of glider pilots we OFITTH's just despise. Young, virile(you should see his girlfriend) and a much smarter and serious view of the world. I'm trying my darndest to convert him into one of us with partnerships in the EP-2 and letting him fly my other gliders but I think only time will ensure he converts to OFITTH status. Mind you he can fly tho. Cheers Ian P. Kookaburra Precision Soaring Team. ----- Original Message ----- From: " Christopher Mc Donnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." <aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net> Sent: Wednesday, April 06, 2005 2:40 PM Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Kooka Trim > The Longwing I used to fly passengers in had the trim between the > seats and you had to physically move the passengers right thigh to get > to it. > Mmmmmmm nice in some cases. (insert Homer Simpson voice) :-) Ian, this > member of the Kookaburra Precision Flying Team is too serious. > > Regards > > Chris > > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "Caleb White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > To: <aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net> > Sent: Wednesday, 6 April 2005 1:49 PM > Subject: [Aus-soaring] Kooka Trim > > >> Hi Chris, >> >> The trim is on the left just below the cockpit frame, a rod and ball >> type > arrangement, the rod continues aft for the person with the bad back > (or soon to have one) in the rear seat. (That's a Mk. 4 Kooka, the hot > one) >> >> That's the trouble with today's sailplanes: Too much commonality! >> >> Cheers, >> >> Caleb >> >> KPST >> >> -----Original Message----- >> From: " Christopher Mc Donnell" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." > <aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net>, <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> Date: Wed, 6 Apr 2005 13:06:53 +0930 >> Subject: Re: Re: [Aus-soaring] World Class Glider >> >> Definitly a "classy" aircraft Caleb and at your age none better to >> fly a chick in :-) BTW where is the trim lever in yours? :-) >> >> Regards >> >> Chris McDonnell >> >> ----- Original Message ----- >> From: "Caleb White" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> To: <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>; <aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net> >> Sent: Wednesday, 6 April 2005 12:52 PM >> Subject: Re: Re: [Aus-soaring] World Class Glider >> >> >> > But there is a World Class Two-Seater! >> > >> > It's called a shortwing Kookaburra... >> > >> > Caleb >> > >> > Kooka 45 >> > >> > KPST >> > >> > -----Original Message----- >> > From: Robert Hart <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> >> > To: "Soaring in Australia." <aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net> >> > Date: Wed, 06 Apr 2005 12:14:50 +1000 >> > Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] World Class Glider >> > >> > On Wed, 2005-04-06 at 11:23 +1000, Peter Creswick wrote: >> > > In essence, I wonder if the whole idea of a world class single >> > > seater is viable to begin with. Would it not be more sensible to >> > > have a world class two seater ? I admit that at first thought it >> > > might be considered a heretical idea, but let's give it a run as >> > > a hypothetical. Comments ? >> > >> > Peter >> > >> > I think the concept of a world class glider was probably good, the >> > execution, as is visible in the form of the PW 5, was terrible. >> > There have been some useful suggestions as to how that bad decision >> > might have been avoided. >> > >> > If a reasonable performance single seat glider, backed by a >> > worldwide comp system, was available at a good price, then I think >> > the idea would work. The design should also include a one man rig >> > trailer and (if >> > possible) provision for self launching (as I too think that this >> > will dominate the future of gliding). >> > >> > Reasonable performance is of course in the eye of the beholder. My >> > thoughts are 40:1 or better max L/D, but with a modern aerofoil >> > giving a good performance at 80 kts. >> > >> > A world class two seater is an interesting idea. We certainly need >> > a good, low cost two seater to replace our ageing ab initio fleet. >> > If there were a worldwide 2 seater comp to back it - as this is >> > what would drive its adoption worldwide and allow economies of >> > scale to be reached >> > - then the idea could work well for us. >> > >> > With today's aerofoils and materials, I think an acceptable XC >> > performance could be achieved whilst still keeping handling and >> > strength in the sweet spot for ab initio training. >> > >> > Again, I would suggest the rules should specifically require a 2 >> > man rig trailer and stipulate provision for a self launching >> > option. >> > >> > -- >> > Robert Hart [EMAIL PROTECTED] >> > +61 (0)438 385 533 >> > Brisbane, Australia http://www.hart.wattle.id.au >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Aus-soaring mailing list >> > Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net >> > To check or change subscription details, visit: >> > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring >> > >> > >> > >> > >> > _______________________________________________ >> > Aus-soaring mailing list >> > Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net >> > To check or change subscription details, visit: >> > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Aus-soaring mailing list >> Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net >> To check or change subscription details, visit: >> http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Aus-soaring mailing list >> Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net >> To check or change subscription details, visit: >> http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring >> > > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > > > -- > Internal Virus Database is out-of-date. > Checked by AVG Anti-Virus. > Version: 7.0.308 / Virus Database: 266.8.5 - Release Date: 29/03/2005 > > _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring _______________________________________________ Aus-soaring mailing list Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net To check or change subscription details, visit: http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring