I have been gliding for 25+ years and was always taught the 200' rule.
Instructing over the past 10 years I believe I have passed on this
information.
Being a small club it has been extreamly rare to have 2 gliders within
site of one another let alone share a thermal. This makes it hard to
reinforce this rule, or demonstrate how to join a thermal with another
glider. Lookout is another one that is hard to reinforce when there is
'never' any possible conflict.
For this reason despite a student being taught the 200' rule over time
with no cause to remember it they may well forget that they had ever
learnt it.
Kevin Roden
John Parncutt wrote:
It does not matter whether it is "and" or "or" It is quite clear what the
intent of this regulation is, and that is the maintainance of 200ft
seperation between sailplanes IN ANY Direction. To make some argument of
ambiguity when the alternate understanding is clearly a nonsense serves no
purpose to this discusion.
Lets take this back to basics, which is that there is an appears to be a
lack of knowledge in some elements of the the gliding community regarding
the basic rules of the air. The extent of this problem and its cause, needs
to be determined. I suspect that some clubs may not be placing sufficient
emphasis on this subject during their training process, which leads to the
question what other things could be slipping through the net.
We have an organisation within the Gliding movement whose responsibility is
to ensure that teaching practices across all clubs in Australia follow
standards set be the GFA. Issues such as this should be addressed by the
NGS, if we can't ensure that the National training standards are adhered to,
we run the risk of having them taken out of our control.
John Parncutt
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Dawber
Sent: Saturday, 18 June 2005 6:06 PM
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: [Aus-soaring] 200 feet separation
Unfortunately, its not always the intent of a rule that is
taken when a
rule is looked at in a court of law. What the rule actually
says is
often given more weight.
With the current separation rule as shown below, ie. "200 feet
vertically AND horizontally" then we glider pilots are
required never to
fly at the same height as another aircraft, regardless of
horizontal
separation!!!!
Once one aircraft is up in the air, no other aircraft can
get higher
than that aircraft without breaking this rule!!
Shouldn't that 'and' be an 'or'. We only need to be
separated by the
vertical separation OR the horizontal separation, not by both.
Regards
Ken Dawber
Christopher H Thorpe wrote:
Mike's comment is correct and remains so. GFA Operational Regulations -
Section 9.22 states:-
"A sailplane shall not be flown so close to another aircraft as to
create a
collision hazard. GFA requires that a separation from other
sailplanes, and
tug aircraft towing sailplanes, of at least 200 feet vertically and
horizontally be maintained."
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