Re: [Aus-soaring] Horsham Week / VIC State Comps

cubley Tue, 30 Jan 2007 02:17:19 -0800

The mangatory use of Flarm at Nationals was opposed by the sports committee
(as it was by the IGC for world comps) but the GQ organisers asked for this
to be considered for the nationals in Kingaroy. GQ reps and NCC reps (who
set the national rules) then discussed the wording of the rules so as to
meet the needs of GQ but satisfy the concerns of the sports committee. The
final rules (and application/lntent of the rules) was agreed by GQ and the

Sports Committee, so this rule did have national approval.

The next sports committee meeting in Feb will discuss this further to see if

rules can/should be approved for mandatory use of Flarm.

Sports committee sets national rules, regional committees generally use a
version of this for their state comps - usually with slightly reduced

requirements for checking, approvals etc

Regards
Terry
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Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Horsham Week / VIC State Comps

Huh? Re read my post Nick- I never said that State rules apply to

Nationals,

or nationals rules apply to state comps, I said it seemed strange to allow
states to change the nationals rules or introduce new ones to suit
themselves when THEY run a particular nationals i.e. I believe (correct me
if I am wrong)mandatory FLARM at recent Queensland held nationals was a
STATE decision not national body decision.(Note: Example only FLARMnatics
need not respond) National comps should be based on Nationally decided

rules

not any one states whim.

Of course, each State can have their own comp rules for state comps-but
logic would seem to dictate using the same rules as national championships

to help people prepare properly for the next level up of comp.

I will try to find the reference to such matters regarding competing at
regional competitions to qualify for a comp license (could be a US thing).
BTW I have no interest in comps myself, just thought it strange that the
national rules could be changed at the whim of a state that is holding

them,

I know of no other sport that allows this, although I am sure Victoria
wouldn't mind changing some footy rules so they could (maybe) win a

premiership again eventually(-:RegardsDave L


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Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Horsham Week / VIC State CompsDave,

The nationals rules don't apply to state competitions - they apply to
national competitions. Makes perfect sense to me. The state based
competitions arent modifying the nationals rules - they have their own.

Good thing too, they are entry level events.The state based cricket competition doesn't play 5 day test matches.

Regards,
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Hi All,

Whereas I thought I read somewhere that one qualified for a FAI comp
license

in part by entering regional competitions, a bit of a catch 22 this eh?No license, no compete, no compete no license! Why am I not surprised!

One thing I have never been able to fathom is how States are allowed to
modify the nationals rules at will, it seems to me they should be decided
Nationally, and states should not be able to tack on their own extras,
such

as mandatory FLARM without National body approval of a rule change.

It seems crazy to allow this to me, and I can think of no other sport that
does this sort of thing. National comp rules should be a matter for
national

consideration, not the whim of a state body.RegardsDave L.



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Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Horsham Week / VIC State Comps

Or if you call the event a Regatta then you don't need Competitors

licenses nor do you require competition insurance.

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David Nugent wrote:
> Rolf,
>
> Competition licenses have not been required at past Horsham Weeks
> (including when they are a State comp), my understanding is that they
> are only reqd at National level.
It is my understanding that in order to be able to use the GFA
competition insurance cover, all competing pilots must have an FAI
competitor's licence. This is why all competitions in Qld (including the

Easter competition) require competitor's licences.

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