Spot on, and they are still doing the Titanic right down to the metalurgy of the plating.

CMcD


----- Original Message ----- From: "Allan Armistead" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia." <aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net>
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 6:57 PM
Subject: RE: [Aus-soaring] Tost wheel brakes


Especially when "the system" dissects events with the benefit of 20/20
hindsight and plenty of time in which to do it.


Allan Armistead
ph (02) 6249 6470, mobile 0413 013 911
PO Box 908, Dickson ACT 2602, Australia

"When once you have tasted flight, you will always walk with your eyes
turned skyward, for there you have been and there you always will be."
Leonardo da Vinci, 1452-1519


-----Original Message-----
From: [EMAIL PROTECTED]
[mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED] Behalf Of
Christopher Mc Donnell
Sent: Thursday, 29 March 2007 19:19
To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia.
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Tost wheel brakes


Matthew said in the message below:

"is not going to go down well with the coroner !"

This is akin to something I said recently in regard to a  recent event.
When it comes to liability these days the "system" expects standards
compliance and foreseeability.

CMcD


----- Original Message -----
From: "Matthew Gage" <[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia."
<aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net>
Sent: Thursday, March 29, 2007 4:04 PM
Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Tost wheel brakes


Neither certification or design are the issue at all here ! Training is.

A glider certified with a wheel brake needs it working to be serviceable.
This is explicitly stated in operating regs in several other countries as
well.

As others are saying, the airbrake lever is probably the best location for
the wheel brake, as the handle is already being gripped when landing.

Now for training:

A pilot who has been trained to spot land WITHOUT needing the wheel brake
will NEVER (or almost never) be at full airbrake at touch down so this
isn't
an issue for them at all.

Pilots who routinely land with full airbrake will certainly need a fully
working wheel brake at some point.

Everyone may well find the need for a wheel brake that works optimally at
some point - to find that someone has deliberately tampered with it is not
going to go down well with the coroner !



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