On 15 February 2010 23:24, Ben Jones <bjo...@pipecomp.com.au> wrote:

> So when a Lady says your average in bed,  Is that Mean ??

Perhaps it depends on her mode :)

Paul

>
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gary Stevenson" <gst...@dodo.com.au>
> To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia."
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> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Average versus median (I am being Mr. Picky...)
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>> Half above and half below, but just who is the pepper picker's son?
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Paul Bart" <pb2...@gmail.com>
>> To: "Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia."
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>> Sent: Monday, February 15, 2010 10:17 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Average versus median (I am being Mr. Picky...)
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>>
>> On 15 February 2010 14:30, Mike Cleaver <wom...@netspeed.com.au> wrote:
>>>
>>> Another bloody pedant statistician!
>>
>> Far from it, just a bit of harmless fun :)
>>
>> Paul, have you identified the one who is
>>>
>>> the mean and median, and is half of him (or her) above and half below?
>>
>> Neither really, for even number of values the mean of the middle two
>> is taken and that is the only case when half of the values is below
>> the mean.
>>
>>
>> Or is
>>>
>>> this average also the mode, as it should be with a Gaussian distribution?
>>> In
>>> that case there will be more people of average (modal) intelligence than
>>> any
>>> other single value of intellegence, but still 68% of people will be
>>> within
>>> one standard deviation of average (mean, median, mode).
>>>
>>> (Somehow, I doubt that it really is an idealised bell-curve, as those
>>> with
>>> grossly below whichever average you care to compare are likely to have
>>> less
>>> chance of survival than those above it. Further it was claimed somewhere
>>> that Albert Einstein had an IQ of 210. I suppose it is possible for
>>> someone
>>> to have an IQ of less than zero if they consistently get every question
>>> wrong on an IQ test, even given more than the permitted time to answer
>>> the
>>> questions.)
>>
>> Yes but the original poster said "half has below average inteligence"
>> - score did not get a mention, hence no one has to have a negative
>> score to balance Albert's score( I bet he would be too smart to get
>> himself involved in this discussion).  And as you know the frequency
>> curve only asymptotes to zero, hence it can accomodate any outliers,
>> irrespective of how far from the mean they may be.
>>
>> cheers
>>
>> paul
>>
>>
>>
>>>
>>> Of course, this also depends on intelligence being defined as the ability
>>> to
>>> perform in IQ tests - which I find to be only one of a number of ways to
>>> interpret intelligence. IQ tests are also extremely culturally biased!
>>>
>>> Some might even consider it intelligent or smart to provoke people and
>>> then
>>> claim money through the legal system for perceived or manufactured
>>> "injury"
>>> - I consider that kind of legal system to be not very intelligent at all.
>>>
>>> Wombat
>>> Another bloody pedant statistician (or is that a peasant with blocked
>>> nasal
>>> passages?)
>>>
>>>
>>> At 14:57 15/02/2010, you wrote:
>>>>
>>>> On 15 February 2010 13:13, Texler, Michael
>>>> <michael.tex...@health.wa.gov.au> wrote:
>>>> >
>>>> >>Reminds me of a faux-statistic: Of 250 million Americans, half of them
>>>> > are below average intelligence :)
>>>> >
>>>> > Half of them would be below the median intelligence.....
>>>>
>>>> Correction to the correction :)
>>>>
>>>> Well only if there is an even number of them, otherwise it would not
>>>> be. On the other hand if intelligence follows a normal distribution,
>>>> which is the generally accepted fact, then mean equals the median in
>>>> which case the original statement is correct
>>>>
>>>> Cheers
>>>>
>>>> Paul
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