Mike. Unsure how the mechanics of the colibri2 vario work. But it seems to do a pretty good job of compensating. It may be using the gps data to compensate for speed changes. My next glider won't have a mech vario as a backup. Between a good vario with backup power and the C2 as a get me home style vario
Sent from my iPhone > On 6 Dec 2014, at 18:26, Mike Borgelt <mborg...@borgeltinstruments.com> wrote: > > Colin, > > A vario in stand alone logger won't have total energy. > > While TE introduces problems it is essential in modern slippery gliders. In > your Blanik , Grunau Baby etc not so much. > > We did considerable flight data logging in developing Dynamis some of it in > smooth air trying to fly accurately at constant airspeed. It is amazingly > difficult and the magnitudes of the stick lift are quite large even down at > 55 to 60 knots. > > As a standby vario a non TE vario won't be that good. I think the Colibri 2 > was developed for the hang and paraglider market primarily where a non TE > vario is OK. > > Mike > > > > > At 03:25 PM 6/12/2014, you wrote: >> Content-Type: multipart/alternative; >> boundary="----=_NextPart_000_0022_01D01171.497C8BA0" >> Content-Language: en-au >> >> G’day Tim and Others, >> >> The Colibri II has the audio plus it navigates/records etc with a 6 hour >> battery life of its own. >> >> The audio can be turned off easily when it’s not required. >> >> And if the agent reads this I’m prepared to accept a small [or even a large >> ] commission! J >> >> Regards, >> >> Colin >> >> >> >> From: aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net [ >> mailto:aus-soaring-boun...@lists.internode.on.net] On Behalf Of Tim Shirley >> Sent: Saturday, 6 December 2014 3:14 PM >> To: Discussion of issues relating to Soaring in Australia. >> Subject: Re: [Aus-soaring] Tasman New Vario >> >> >> >> Hi all, >> >> Thanks heaps to people posting factual information about products of >> interest to soaring pilots. It is so much more useful than most of the >> nonsense that passes for comment here. Even if people are singing the >> praises of their own products, I still welcome all such information. >> >> I already have a high-end vario, so I'm not in the market for yet another >> magic box that will transform me into Sebastian Kawa. It didn't work with >> the first one either, though I am sure that is down to me. The instrument >> works fine. I also have a Winter vario that performs well enough as a >> backup but when I recently had a fuse blow in flight, I found myself with >> only the Winter for a couple of hours and I would have preferred a bit of >> audio and an averager. >> >> Of course, such a backup vario doesn't need to be complex and certainly it >> should not be expensive. It just needs to have a backup power supply >> onboard the instrument. So what are the options? >> >> Oh, and a reminder to all, I still have a very nice Discus for sale at a >> very reasonable price :) >> >> Cheers >> >> Tim Shirley >> >> tra dire é fare c' é mezzo il mare >> >> On 6/12/2014 2:26 PM, Mike Borgelt wrote: >> >> Imitation is the greatest compliment. >> >> Sounds like they've copied most of the features from our B700/900. >> >> We've had the climb improving green light since the B400/B500 9 years ago >> and put in the comparator for the running average/thermal average as well on >> the B700 3 years ago and its more recent linear scale version the B900. >> >> Also the climb audio on/off ratio changes slightly when climb rate exceeds >> running average. B400/B700/B900 can run from 4 x AA alkaline batteries for >> hours (power pack but no batteries included). >> >> These are also on the B600/B800 systems which have an airspeed sensor, >> advanced vario processing (optional netto or relative), speed to fly, >> glide/nav/wind computer, GPS and serial output of GPS, air data and >> settings to external PNA type glide computers. >> >> All our varios also have a large clear stepper motor driven pointer of >> extremely high resolution. The stepper allows for nearly 360 degree pointer >> movement (more can be confusing) giving significantly expanded scales. Most >> manufacturers were offering LCD pointer displays >> >> in the 1980s but nearly all have gone to stepper motor driven pointers. We >> looked at this around 1987 but didn't like the poor 0.4 knot resolution that >> was the best possible. You'd be really annoyed if say a Winter vario had a >> pointer that moved in half knot steps. >> >> All our instruments are available to properly fit 57mm or 80mm standard >> holes (adapter plates not required) and by putting the scales on the outside >> of the hole even the 57mm instruments have a larger, clearer display. >> >> The B600/B800 can also take our new Dynamis sensor for complete 3D real >> time airmass motion sensing and no horizontal gust sensitivity. Expensive >> (the sensor mainly), but unmatched capability. A recent customer who fitted >> a B800 to get an early Dynamis when >> >> available has found he likes the audio better than the one in the CAI302 it >> replaced and better than the LX9000 audio. >> >> >> Mike >> >> >> >> At 11:15 AM 6/12/2014, you wrote: >> >> >> Tasman Instruments have released a completely new model, the VRM 10 Sprite. >> It has a lot of new features such as elapsed time clock, recorded alarms >> including under carriage warning but its best feature is the way it allows >> you to more daily centre thermals. It also has up/down arrows showing >> whether the climb is improving or the need to recenter or leave the thermal. >> It also has tone selection, fast response and of course does not need a >> flask as per the previous Tasman model. >> >> I was lucky to be able to have XON as a test bed for its development and it >> has certainly impressed out syndicate pilots. Worth a look! >> >> >> Cheers >> >> David Cleland >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Aus-soaring mailing list >> Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net >> To check or change subscription details, visit: >> http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring >> >> Borgelt Instruments - design & manufacture of quality soaring >> instrumentation since 1978 >> www.borgeltinstruments.com >> tel: 07 4635 5784 overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 >> mob: 042835 5784 : int+61-42835 5784 >> P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia >> >> >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> >> Aus-soaring mailing >> list >> >> >> Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net >> >> To check or change subscription details, >> visit: >> >> >> http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> Aus-soaring mailing list >> Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net >> To check or change subscription details, visit: >> http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring > Borgelt Instruments - design & manufacture of quality soaring instrumentation > since 1978 > www.borgeltinstruments.com > tel: 07 4635 5784 overseas: int+61-7-4635 5784 > mob: 042835 5784 : int+61-42835 5784 > P O Box 4607, Toowoomba East, QLD 4350, Australia > > _______________________________________________ > Aus-soaring mailing list > Aus-soaring@lists.internode.on.net > To check or change subscription details, visit: > http://lists.internode.on.net/mailman/listinfo/aus-soaring
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