Hi Robert and Paul,
For the people that really want to make a difference there seems to be a good
argument for joining a group or organisation that will represent them as a
whole, I think this is good advice and I will be looking at the options for
sure.
Thanks for the information and for the commitment.
Regards
Paul
From: Robert Hudson <hud...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, 16 August 2018 1:20 PM
To: p...@buildingconnect.com.au
Cc: ausnog@lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill
Hi Paul,
We have already published our stance on this previously in press releases and
our regular newsletter, and will be sending a formal response to the govt's
invitation to do so.
That response is currently being formulated to ensure we cover all pertinent
points, thus far (until we complete our reading of the mattter) being:
* The proposed laws are WAY too vague to start with, and contradictory at times
in what is and isn't allowed, who and who is not allowed to access the data, etc
* There is a strong history already of misuse of power by government
agencies/privileged individuals.
* This is over-reach by government with significant potential impact to
law-abiding citizens
* There is no way to breach end-to-end asymmetric key encryption in the way
they're talking without creating back-doors, compromising the encryption
process or creating secondary back-channels
* The idea that the Australian government can enforce the law with parties
based overseas where they are outside of the jurisdiction of our government or
its treaty partners is laughable
* There is insufficient protection of process - the A-G gets to make the
requests/notices, and the A-G gets to decide at the same time what's reasonable
and what's not
* The criminals this is aimed at will simply move to using tools outside of the
government's reach if they're even remotely competent (if they're not, surely
this level of law is not required to catch them), meaning that the only people
this will really impact will, again, be law-abiding citizens
* The likely next step when people start using tools outside of the
government's control will be to mandate that only govt-controlled apps are used
- meaning loss of functionality for law-abiding citizens, or unintentional
criminal acts when they download and use something they don't realise is
sanctioned.
There's probably (almost certainly) more. I've got a full-time job outside of
doing this, as do the rest of the ITPA board. If (or anyone else reading this)
has strong feelings/expertise in this area, we'd gladly look to work with you
on our response. Or hell, join and volunteer to help us with this - we
represent ~18,000 associate members at this stage, and the bigger we get, the
more our voice will resonate.
Regards,
Robert
On Thu, 16 Aug. 2018, 12:59 pm Paul Julian, <p...@buildingconnect.com.au> wrote:
Hi Robert,
I think it’s a perfectly valid point, so just out of interest what is ITPA’s
plan to respond to this current situation ?
Regards
Paul
From: Robert Hudson <hud...@gmail.com>
Sent: Thursday, 16 August 2018 12:34 PM
To: p...@buildingconnect.com.au
Cc: Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins...@gmail.com>; ausnog@lists.ausnog.net
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Dutton decryption bill
On Thu, 16 Aug 2018 at 11:10, Paul Julian <p...@buildingconnect.com.au> wrote:
Hi Paul,
Where do you even start ?
I would love to be able to comment on these things properly but how do you
structure a response that isn’t just a whinge and saying that it’s not fair and
blah blah, it would need to offer alternatives or suggestions on how else this
could be accomplished or why it shouldn’t be in the first place.
Apologies if this isn't considered appropriate on this list, but I think the
point of joining representative organisations is important, especially on this
topic.
Join a group like ITPA (it doesn't have to be ITPA, so this isn't "strictly" an
ad - more a drive to get people participating in industry associations. The
more members we have, the stronger our voice. We have commented strongly on
this issue, and will continue to do so on this and other issues of importance
to IT Professionals.
ITPA Associate membership is free. Paid membership is less than the cost of a
cup of coffee a week.
If not us, choose another representative organisation, and make sure your voice
is heard.
If you (and others) don't, then things like Metadata Retention, breaking
encryption, and goodness knows what they have up their sleeves next will
continue to go through.
Regards,
Robert
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