Hello fellow network users. I ranted about this on the thugcrowd weekly podcast last week - tried to break down what it means for people in information security land you can jump to the topic here https://youtu.be/GyGslRqPecM?t=2671
On Mon, Aug 20, 2018 at 10:55 AM, Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins...@gmail.com> wrote: > "The Internet is nothing like broadcast mediums such as radio and > television, and cannot be regulated in the same way." > > Because the internet is a public medium, unlike radio and television, you > don't require a license to publish content. The audience doesn't require a > license (unless you're the UK where you need a TV license). So the > regulatory domain is different. I expect coming down the track, crypto will > become a licensed technology, and you won't be able to get a certificate > without government approval. We should also remember that unlike radio and > television, the internet doesn't need only a regulatory regime, but also > needs to be policed. > > This bill is pretty weak beer compared to what data retention was as far > as making inroads on the right to privacy, which ended up being very much > watered down to what it might have been but for strong public opposition. > Maintain the rage for when Barnaby Joyce proposes judicial wiretaps for > radio and television. > > Kind regards > > Paul Wilkins > > > > On Sat, 18 Aug 2018 at 16:57, Robert Hudson <hud...@gmail.com> wrote: > >> This bill has nothing to do with content on Facebook (or websites run by >> content creators, or even websites at all). >> >> The Internet is nothing like broadcast mediums such as radio and >> television, and cannot be regulated in the same way. >> >> This bill should never pass. >> >> >> On Sat, 18 Aug. 2018, 4:51 pm Chad Kelly, <c...@cpkws.com.au> wrote: >> >>> On 8/18/2018 12:00 PM, ausnog-requ...@lists.ausnog.net wrote: >>> >>> > Possible scenario: >>> > >>> > 3:00am Sunday morning, phone rings at the DC reception, is picked up by >>> > security. "Hi, we've never met. This is Paul Symon of ASIS. I'm sending >>> > some uniformed AFP officers over to sieze a number of servers. This >>> call >>> > constitutes a verbal technical assistance notice, and non compliance >>> > carries a penalty of 5 years imprisonment". >>> Given how most Datacentres work in this country I doubt this would >>> happen. >>> You generally need to be escorted by security into the areas ware >>> equipment is housed and generally requests need to be made in writing >>> and an appointment needs to be booked. >>> You can't just walk in off the street, and you also need photo ID which >>> gets scanned and stored for a period of at least 12 months, when you >>> enter. >>> You can't even just walk into the DC as a customer, hell for some of >>> them you even need an induction before you can set foot in them. >>> If someone did try this the operator would just demand something in >>> writing and hang up the phone. >>> Also security don't take phone calls that would be the on call techs >>> job. >>> The UK 10 or 12 years ago doesn't really apply to Au law and it was >>> Verizon, who are a US company and they are now a lot larger then they >>> were 11 years ago and Publicly listed. >>> So I would suspect security at their facilities would be improved and a >>> lot of those providers are getting out of the DC space and partnering >>> with the likes of AWS anyway so they don't need to take responsibility >>> for hardware. >>> >>> This bill has come about because of Facebook and them allowing video of >>> child abuse to remain on the platform. >>> If Facebook had been proactive and handed over the content to the AFP >>> and the FBI as well as all of the users details none of this would even >>> be being discussed. >>> The Internet needs regulation just like Radio and Television. >>> This bill should of been passed 20 years ago in reality. >>> >>> Regards Chad. >>> >>> -- >>> Chad Kelly >>> Manager >>> CPK Web Services >>> Phone 03 5273 0246 >>> Web www.cpkws.com.au >>> >>> _______________________________________________ >>> AusNOG mailing list >>> AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net >>> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog >>> >> _______________________________________________ >> AusNOG mailing list >> AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net >> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog >> > > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > >
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