I think you hit the nail on the head Mark.
 
Regards
Paul
 
 
On Sep 12, 2018, at 10:55 AM, Paul Wilkins <paulwilkins...@gmail.com> wrote:


I can't wait to see the full extent of responses. What I've seen so far speaks 
of not just the quality and detail of submissions, but the broad base of 
responses, ensuring representation of a diversity of interests, and raising a 
broad range of concerns and recommendations.
 
It's a strong vindication for the processes of representative democracy that so 
many have taken the time to make a contribution.
 
 
It isn’t “representative democracy” when the only reason the Govt is pursuing 
this is because the Americans said they wanted it in a 5-eyes meeting.
https://www.itnews.com.au/news/five-eyes-nations-to-force-encryption-backdoors-511865
 
I think we can all expect the “broad range of concerns and recommendations” to 
be ignored by the Government because they’re a client State of the Americans 
and will bloody-well do what they’re told, no matter what Australian voters say 
they want. 
 
They might make some amendments around the edges, but only in places where 
doing so doesn’t erect any significant barrier in the way of them doing what 
they’ve already decided they’re going to do.
 
Then, in three years, they’ll come back and say they need to “modernize 
Australia’s national security laws” (again) and undo the amendments. Which is 
actually precisely what they’re doing now in relation to the limits they placed 
on themselves three years ago regarding data retention, if you’ll recall.
 
It is a corruption of the democratic process, not an example of it functioning 
properly. There is no democratic brake on the advancement of the intelligence 
community’s powers, they continue to do whatever the hell they want, with no 
recourse.
 
Given the circumstances, it’s a bit naïve to suggest otherwise, don’t you think?
 
 
  - mark
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