As somebody who lives in one of the areas that gets affected a lot, and that
the article was mostly written about I believe, I can tell you that there are a
lot more NTD’s getting damaged than there was ADSL modems.
I can’t explain it either, it shouldn’t be happening, however people with surge
protected power boards are copping it as well, it’s like it’s coming through
the copper, maybe due to the nature of the DPU and other people connected,
perhaps it’s transiting the DPU and damaging other NTD’s, I don’t know, but the
DPU’s seem to be unaffected, only NTD’s, so it could be a design issue.
I don’t use NBN myself, however our local facebook page lights up whenever
there is a storm approaching or upon us, with people talking about unplugging
NTD’s etc. and then of course afterwards when people complain about no
internet, and then the complaints that it’s taken NBN 5 days to get there and
replace it
Many people have been told by the provider that NBN is looking at NTD’s which
handle power spikes better, I don’t know what they are actually doing but
that’s what people are being told.
The NBN techs will also not leave spare equipment, this makes sense of course,
but I know the question has been asked many times in our community.
I believe the article came about due to many people complaining to local MP’s
about the issues and obviously the media has picked it up as well.
Regards
Paul
From: AusNOG <ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Brendan Ord
Sent: Thursday, 21 January 2021 10:36 AM
To: Damien Gardner Jnr <rend...@rendrag.net>
Cc: aus...@ausnog.net <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Lightning and FTTC - is it really this bad?
Damien, I agree with you. Lightning is going to be causing the same issues it
always caused regardless of the technology; telegram, POTS, ADSL or VDSL from
the curb or cabinet – nothing’s changed because there’s still copper conductors
in the ground.
I smell a lot of agenda pushing and bias in this article and that’s about all
it is.
Although, maybe a more important topic mentioned in the article – NBN won’t
allow these businesses to buy a cold spare?!?
Brendan Ord
From: AusNOG <ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net
mailto:ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net> On Behalf Of Damien Gardner Jnr
Sent: Thursday, 21 January 2021 9:11 AM
To: Troy Kelly <t...@troykelly.com mailto:t...@troykelly.com>
Cc: aus...@ausnog.net mailto:aus...@ausnog.net <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net
mailto:ausnog@lists.ausnog.net>
Subject: Re: [AusNOG] Lightning and FTTC - is it really this bad?
Yeah it really didn’t make sense to me. How is a product which only has a TINY
bit of copper compared to FTTN and indeed the older POTS network, SO much more
susceptible to lightning strikes? I mean, it’s Fibre to the pit, and then one
breakout box is running four(?) homes, with maybe 100-150m total of copper
between all four homes’ runs? Unless lightning is hitting one of those houses,
or the people in those houses are stupid enough to NOT be running surge
protection on their gear (seriously, wtf? Are there really people without surge
protection these days? It’s been around for 30 years, and is on almost every
power board Bunnings sell..), I don’t see how lightning can be an issue??
Something doesn’t make sense here..
—DG
On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 at 8:25 am, Troy Kelly <t...@troykelly.com
mailto:t...@troykelly.com> wrote:
Yes Mark, I've heard of it ;)
I guess my point was - why is (is it?) FTTC somehow apparently more susceptible
to discharge issues than POTS was/is. Perhaps I am getting the wrong impression
from the article.
Regards, Troy
Brevity is the elixir of life.
Father Hector McGrath, Pixie 2020
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On Wednesday, 20 January 2021 10:15 PM, Mark Smith <markzzzsm...@gmail.com
mailto:markzzzsm...@gmail.com> wrote:
Heard of ADSL? POTS?
If the Internet was only meant to run over fibre, there wouldn't have been any
ARPANET or Internet before the late 1980s or early 1990s.
Fun fact, RFC1 was written on a typewriter in a bathroom in 1969, because Steve
didn't want to disturb his flatmates.
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1 https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1
BCP89.
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