Maybe it's the fact that the NTDs are being powered by residential houses instead of the provider's exchanges, and *very* few people in reality use *good* surge protectors - let alone know they have to replace them after a hit, or identify when they're no longer working?
The power's still coming from the big shared network which loves to attract lightning, after all. James On 2021-01-21 10:04 Jrandombob wrote: > Yeah, sounds to me like the NTDs just aren't very well designed. > > Even in a high lightning area, as Damien said previously, if anything FTTC > ought to be LESS susceptible (assuming of course the devices are well > designed) to lightning owing to the shorter cable runs. > > On Thu, Jan 21, 2021 at 10:50 AM Paul Julian <p...@fivejay.com.au> wrote: >> As somebody who lives in one of the areas that gets affected a lot, and that >> the article was mostly written about I believe, I can tell you that there >> are a lot more NTD’s getting damaged than there was ADSL modems.__ >> __ __ >> I can’t explain it either, it shouldn’t be happening, however people with >> surge protected power boards are copping it as well, it’s like it’s coming >> through the copper, maybe due to the nature of the DPU and other people >> connected, perhaps it’s transiting the DPU and damaging other NTD’s, I don’t >> know, but the DPU’s seem to be unaffected, only NTD’s, so it could be a >> design issue.__ >> __ __ >> I don’t use NBN myself, however our local facebook page lights up whenever >> there is a storm approaching or upon us, with people talking about >> unplugging NTD’s etc. and then of course afterwards when people complain >> about no internet, and then the complaints that it’s taken NBN 5 days to get >> there and replace it 😊__ >> __ __ >> Many people have been told by the provider that NBN is looking at NTD’s >> which handle power spikes better, I don’t know what they are actually doing >> but that’s what people are being told.__ >> __ __ >> The NBN techs will also not leave spare equipment, this makes sense of >> course, but I know the question has been asked many times in our community.__ >> __ __ >> I believe the article came about due to many people complaining to local >> MP’s about the issues and obviously the media has picked it up as well.__ >> __ __ >> Regards__ >> Paul__ >> __ __ >> *From:* AusNOG <ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net> *On Behalf Of *Brendan Ord >> *Sent:* Thursday, 21 January 2021 10:36 AM >> *To:* Damien Gardner Jnr <rend...@rendrag.net> >> *Cc:* aus...@ausnog.net <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net> >> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Lightning and FTTC - is it really this bad?__ >> __ __ >> Damien, I agree with you. Lightning is going to be causing the same issues >> it always caused regardless of the technology; telegram, POTS, ADSL or VDSL >> from the curb or cabinet – nothing’s changed because there’s still copper >> conductors in the ground.__ >> __ __ >> I smell a lot of agenda pushing and bias in this article and that’s about >> all it is.__ >> __ __ >> Although, maybe a more important topic mentioned in the article – NBN won’t >> allow these businesses to buy a cold spare?!?__ >> __ __ >> >> *Brendan Ord*__ >> __ __ >> __ __ >> *From:* AusNOG <ausnog-boun...@lists.ausnog.net> *On Behalf Of *Damien >> Gardner Jnr >> *Sent:* Thursday, 21 January 2021 9:11 AM >> *To:* Troy Kelly <t...@troykelly.com> >> *Cc:* aus...@ausnog.net <ausnog@lists.ausnog.net> >> *Subject:* Re: [AusNOG] Lightning and FTTC - is it really this bad?__ >> __ __ >> Yeah it really didn’t make sense to me. How is a product which only has a >> TINY bit of copper compared to FTTN and indeed the older POTS network, SO >> much more susceptible to lightning strikes? I mean, it’s Fibre to the pit, >> and then one breakout box is running four(?) homes, with maybe 100-150m >> total of copper between all four homes’ runs? Unless lightning is hitting >> one of those houses, or the people in those houses are stupid enough to NOT >> be running surge protection on their gear (seriously, wtf? Are there really >> people without surge protection these days? It’s been around for 30 years, >> and is on almost every power board Bunnings sell..), I don’t see how >> lightning can be an issue??__ >> __ __ >> Something doesn’t make sense here..__ >> __ __ >> —DG__ >> __ __ >> On Thu, 21 Jan 2021 at 8:25 am, Troy Kelly <t...@troykelly.com> wrote:__ >>> Yes Mark, I've heard of it ;)__ >>> __ __ >>> I guess my point was - why is (is it?) FTTC somehow apparently more >>> susceptible to discharge issues than POTS was/is. Perhaps I am getting the >>> wrong impression from the article.__ >>> __ __ >>> *Regards, Troy*__ >>> Brevity is the elixir of life.__ >>> Father Hector McGrath, Pixie 2020__ >>> __ __ >>> __ __ >>> ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐ Original Message ‐‐‐‐‐‐‐__ >>> On Wednesday, 20 January 2021 10:15 PM, Mark Smith <markzzzsm...@gmail.com> >>> wrote:__ >>> __ __ >>>> Heard of ADSL? POTS?__ >>>> __ __ >>>> If the Internet was only meant to run over fibre, there wouldn't have been >>>> any ARPANET or Internet before the late 1980s or early 1990s.__ >>>> __ __ >>>> Fun fact, RFC1 was written on a typewriter in a bathroom in 1969, because >>>> Steve didn't want to disturb his flatmates.__ >>>> __ __ >>>> https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc1__ >>>> __ __ >>>> BCP89.__ >>>> __ __ >>>> __ __ >> _______________________________________________ >> AusNOG mailing list >> AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net >> http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog > _______________________________________________ > AusNOG mailing list > AusNOG@lists.ausnog.net > http://lists.ausnog.net/mailman/listinfo/ausnog >
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