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Enclosed are the minutes of this weeks meeting
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Andrew
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Minutes of the 14th August 2025 Teleconference Austin-1466 Page 1 of 1
Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group. 15th August 2025
Attendees:
Andrew Josey, The Open Group
Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR
Eric Ackermann, CISPA
Geoff Clare, The Open Group
Mark Brown
Eric Blake, Red Hat, The Open Group OR
Haelwenn Monnier, The Open Group
* General business
We confirmed the calendar for upcoming meetings, the next meeting
is August 28th.
* Carried Forward
Bug 1927: Add sponge utility
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1927
[Action to Eric B] Start a 30-day request for comments on whether The Open
Group should sponsor the addition of this interface.
glibc realloc() behavior
[Action to Eric B] - respond to the thread and invite Alejandro to
open a bug against POSIX if we still need to address wording issues
Update 2025-06-26: discussion on mailing lists is still ongoing;
EricB or Alejandro will open a bug soon
* New Business
Bug 1937: Undefined behavior in tsearch EXAMPLES text
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1937
Accepted as marked, resolved, tc1-2024 tag
Replace the 1st (line 73286) and 3rd (line 73295) instances of:
*(struct element **)
in EXAMPLES with:
*(void **)
Line 73288 Replace the instance of:
(*(struct element **)node)->count++;
with:
((struct element *)*(void **)node)->count++;
Line 73321 Replace the instance of:
const struct element *p = *(const struct element **) ptr;
with:
const struct element *p = *(void **) ptr;
Bug 1938: scandir() should set errno to indicate the error
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1938
Accepted as marked, interp required, tc1-2024 tag
ACTION Andrew to start interp timer (completed).
Interpretation response:
The standard does not speak to this issue, and as such no conformance
distinction can be made between alternative implementations based
on this. This is being referred to the sponsor.
Rationale:
None.
Notes to the Editor (not part of this interpretation):
Make the change in the desired action.
Bug 1851: FD_CLOFORK should not be preserved across exec
https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1851
Accepted as marked, interp required, tc1-2024 tag
ACTION Andrew to start interp timer (completed).
Interpretation response:
The standard states that O_CLOFORK remains set across exec, and
conforming implementations must conform to this. However, concerns
have been raised about this which are being referred to the sponsor.
Rationale:
The requirement in the standard was based on historical Solaris
behavior, but this has now been changed in Solaris and other
implementors are matching the new behavior.
Notes to the Editor (not part of this interpretation):
On page 867 line 29523 section exec, change:
For those file descriptors that remain open, all attributes of
the open file description shall remain unchanged and the
FD_CLOFORK file descriptor flag, if set, shall remain set.
to:
For those file descriptors that remain open, all attributes of
the open file description shall remain unchanged and the
FD_CLOFORK file descriptor flag, if set, shall be cleared.
We briefly discussed bug 1913. Now that bash 5.3 has been released
we should contact Chet. Andrew took an action.
* Next Steps
We will start on bug 1616 if no new bugs are submitted before
the next meeting.
The next calls are on
Thu 2025-08-28 (WEBEX meeting - general bugs)
The calls are for 90 minutes
Calls are anchored on US time. (8am Pacific)
Please check the calendar invites for dial in details.
Bugs are at:
https://austingroupbugs.net
An etherpad is usually up for the meeting, with a URL using the date
format as below:
https://posix.rhansen.org/p/20xx-mm-dd
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