All Enclosed are the minutes from this weeks call regards Andrew -------------- Minutes of the 5th February 2026 Teleconference Austin-1478 Page 1 of 1 Submitted by Andrew Josey, The Open Group. 7th February 2026
Attendees: Nick Stoughton, USENIX, ISO/IEC JTC 1/SC 22 OR Haelwenn Monnier, The Open Group Geoff Clare, The Open Group Eric Blake, Red Hat, The Open Group OR Mark Brown Mark Ziegast, ShWare Systems Apologies Eric Ackermann, CISPA Andrew Josey,The Open Group * General business Geoff Clare has been a critical member of this group, our principal document editor, monitor of emails, and leader of discussions since the formation of the Austin Group. He is to retire shortly, and 2026-02-05 will be his last meeting with us. We are very sad to see you leave, but wish you a happy retirement! Thankyou Geoff! We confirmed the calendar for upcoming meetings, the next meeting is February 19th. Andrew will take an action to review the IEEE ballot pool to see if we can identify a candidate (the candidate needs to be After the meeting Andrew received notification that the FDIS ballot at ISO/IEC JTC 1 has passed with 100% approval, and the document will become an International Standard - ISO/IEC/IEEE 9945 (Ed 2). It is being prepared for publication next. * New Business Bug 1966: Current/previous job definition scattered and ambiguous OPEN https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1966 Accept as marked, Interpretation required, TC1-2024 tag Action: Andrew to start the interpretation timer. Interpretation response: The standard is unclear on this issue, and no conformance distinction can be made between alternative implementations based on this. This is being referred to the sponsor. Rationale: There is a conflict between the description of <current> in the STDOUT section of the jobs utility and the description of the job_id operand for the fg and bg utilities. Notes to the Editor (not part of this interpretation): On page 2666 line 87729 section bg, change: <blockquote>If no <i>job_id</i> operand is given, the most recently suspended job shall be used.</blockquote> to: <blockquote>If no <i>job_id</i> operand is given, the <i>job_id</i> for the job that was most recently suspended, placed in the background, or run as a background job shall be used, except that if there is any suspended job: <ul> <li>If the most recently suspended job is still in a suspended state and no other job was started since it was last suspended, that job shall be used.</li> <li>Otherwise, it is unspecified which job shall be used.</li> </ul></blockquote> On page 2928 line 97725 section fg, change: <blockquote>If no <i>job_id</i> operand is given, the <i>job_id</i> for the job that was most recently suspended, placed in the background, or run as a background job shall be used.</blockquote> to: <blockquote>If no <i>job_id</i> operand is given, the <i>job_id</i> for the job that was most recently suspended, placed in the background, or run as a background job shall be used, except that if there is any suspended job: <ul> <li>If the most recently suspended job is still in a suspended state and no other job was started since it was last suspended, that job shall be used.</li> <li>Otherwise, it is unspecified which job shall be used.</li> </ul></blockquote> On page 3022 line 101144 section jobs, delete: <blockquote>If there is any suspended job, then the current job shall be a suspended job. If there are at least two suspended jobs, then the previous job also shall be a suspended job.</blockquote> Bug 1967: <math.h> still references old IEEE-754 standard issued in 1985. OPEN https://www.austingroupbugs.net/view.php?id=1967 This item will be discussed at the next meeting. Preliminary thoughts are below: This bug should be rejected. The changes needed in Issue 9 to update the standard to defer to C2Y (or C3X) will be worked out during work on Issue 9. There is nothing to be gained by submitting individual defect reports for small parts of that work ahead of time. * Next Steps We will start at bug 1967 next time. Bugs to return to, bugs 1949, 1616, 1941. The next call is on Thu 2026-02-19 (WEBEX meeting - general bugs) The calls are for 90 minutes Calls are anchored on US time. (8am Pacific) Please check the calendar invites for dial in details. Bugs are at: https://austingroupbugs.net An etherpad is usually up for the meeting, with a URL using the date format as below: https://posix.rhansen.org/p/20xx-mm-dd (For write access this uses The Open Group single sign on, for those individuals with gitlab.opengroup.org accounts. Please contact Andrew if you need to be setup) -------- Andrew Josey The Open Group Austin Group Chair Email: [email protected] Apex Plaza, Forbury Road,Reading,Berks.RG1 1AX,England To learn how we maintain your privacy, please review The Open Group Privacy Statement at http://www.opengroup.org/privacy. To unsubscribe/opt-out from this mailing list login to The Open Group collaboration portal at https://collaboration.opengroup.org/operational/portal.php?action=unsub&listid=2481
