Forgot to mention that we are keeping track of the IANA updates that we will 
need to request just prior to publication.

> On Oct 6, 2025, at 11:05 AM, Lynne Bartholomew 
> <[email protected]> wrote:
> 
> Hi, Mike.  Thank you for your replies to our questions.
> 
> Regarding this question and your reply:
> 
>>> 2) <!-- [rfced] Section 2.1:  Because it appears that "full-specified"
>>> means "fully specified", we updated this text accordingly.  If this is 
>>> incorrect, please let us know what "full-specified" means (possibly 
>>> "specified in full"?).
>>> 
>>> Original:
>>> (The corresponding JOSE registrations in [RFC7518] are
>>> full-specified.)
>>> 
>>> Currently:
>>> (The corresponding JOSE registrations in [RFC7518] are  fully specified.) 
>>> -->
>>> 
>> Mike> This has already been addressed by returning to using 
>> "fully-specified", etc.
> 
> We only hyphenated where "fully specified" is used as a modifier.  For 
> example, the text still shows "are fully specified. ...".  There are 
> currently 12 instances of "fully specified" (no hyphen).  Should we hyphenate 
> all of these as well?
> 
> = = = = =
> 
> Regarding question 14)b) and your reply:
> 
>>> alg value (2 instances) / "alg" value (7 instances)
>> 
>> Mike> Let's use "alg" value.
> 
> 
> We also changed 'alg numbers' to '"alg" numbers'; although [FIDO2] doesn't 
> use the word "number", we see that "alg" is quoted everywhere.  Please let us 
> know if we should revert this change.
> 
> = = = = =
> 
> Regarding question 14)c) and your reply:
> 
>>> c) The following terms appear both with and without <tt> in the XML file.  
>>> Please review, and let us know if the current applications of <tt> are 
>>> correct and consistent.
>>> 
>>> <tt>Ed25519</tt>  (no <tt>s in IANA Considerations section)
>>> <tt>Ed448</tt>    (no <tt>s in IANA Considerations section)
>>> <tt>EdDSA</tt>    usage of <tt> appears to be inconsistent (e.g., in
>>>  the XML file, we see
>>>  "This redefines the COSE <tt>EdDSA</tt> algorithm identifier" and
>>>  "The following fully specified JOSE and COSE EdDSA algorithms" -->
>> 
>> Mike> Please add <tt> where missing for algorithm names, such as "The 
>> following fully specified JOSE and COSE <tt>EdDSA</tt> algorithms"
> 
> 
> We're not sure that we understood your request correctly.  We updated the 
> example sentence that you listed but are not sure if any other sentences need 
> to be updated.  Please review.  If further changes are needed, please specify 
> via "Old" and "New" text where we should make additional updates.
> 
> = = = = =
> 
> We have also incorporated the updates that you sent on Friday (3 Oct.).
> 
> The latest files are posted here.  Please refresh your browser:
> 
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9864.txt
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9864.pdf
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9864.html
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9864.xml
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9864-diff.html
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9864-rfcdiff.html (side by side)
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9864-auth48diff.html
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9864-auth48rfcdiff.html (side by side)
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9864-lastdiff.html
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9864-lastrfcdiff.html (side by side)
> 
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9864-xmldiff1.html
>   https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9864-xmldiff2.html
> 
> Thanks again!
> 
> Lynne Bartholomew
> RFC Production Center
> 
> 
>> From: Michael Jones <[email protected]>
>> Subject: RE: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9864 
>> <draft-ietf-jose-fully-specified-algorithms-13> for your review
>> Date: October 3, 2025 at 3:52:59 AM PDT
>> To: Lynne Bartholomew <[email protected]>
>> Cc: "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, Orie 
>> <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, 
>> "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" 
>> <[email protected]>, "[email protected]" <[email protected]>, 
>> "[email protected]" <[email protected]>
>> 
>> One other point of clarification came up before AUTH48 that we should make.  
>> These clarifications need to be applied in three sections.
>> 
>> In 2.2. Edwards-curve Digital Signature Algorithm (EdDSA):
>> 
>> Old:
>> EdDSA using Ed25519 curve
>> New:
>> EdDSA using the Ed25519 parameter set in Section 5.1 of RFC 8032
>> 
>> Old:
>> EdDSA using Ed448 curve
>> New:
>> EdDSA using the Ed448 parameter set in Section 5.2 of RFC 8032
>> 
>> In 4.1.1. Fully-Specified JOSE Algorithm Registrations:
>> 
>> Old:
>> EdDSA using Ed25519 curve
>> New:
>> EdDSA using the Ed25519 parameter set in Section 5.1 of RFC 8032
>> 
>> Old:
>> EdDSA using Ed448 curve
>> New:
>> EdDSA using the Ed448 parameter set in Section 5.2 of RFC 8032
>> 
>> In 4.2.1. Fully-Specified COSE Algorithm Registrations:
>> 
>> Old:
>> EdDSA using Ed25519 curve
>> New:
>> EdDSA using the Ed25519 parameter set in Section 5.1 of RFC 8032
>> 
>> Old:
>> EdDSA using Ed448 curve
>> New:
>> EdDSA using the Ed448 parameter set in Section 5.2 of RFC 8032
>> 
>>                               Thanks again,
>>                               -- Mike
> 
>> On Oct 2, 2025, at 9:55 AM, Michael Jones <[email protected]> 
>> wrote:
>> 
>> My replies are inline, prefixed by "Mike>".
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Michael Jones
>> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2025 4:32 PM
>> To: 'Lynne Bartholomew' <[email protected]>
>> Cc: '[email protected]' <[email protected]>; Orie 
>> <[email protected]>; '[email protected]' <[email protected]>; 
>> '[email protected]' <[email protected]>; '[email protected]' 
>> <[email protected]>; '[email protected]' <[email protected]>; 
>> '[email protected]' <[email protected]>
>> Subject: RE: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9864 
>> <draft-ietf-jose-fully-specified-algorithms-13> for your review
>> 
>> Also, please update Orie's author information to:
>> 
>>   <author fullname="Orie Steele" initials="O." surname="Steele">
>>     <organization>Tradeverifyd</organization>
>>     <address>
>>       <email>[email protected]</email>
>>     </address>
>>   </author>
>> 
>> That's what he asked for in 
>> https://github.com/ietf-wg-jose/draft-ietf-jose-fully-specified-algorithms/pull/34.
>>   (Yes, I realize that we're past the point of using the GitHub repository 
>> anymore.)
>> 
>>                               Thanks again,
>>                               -- Mike
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Michael Jones
>> Sent: Friday, September 26, 2025 7:24 AM
>> To: Lynne Bartholomew <[email protected]>
>> Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; 
>> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; 
>> [email protected]
>> Subject: RE: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9864 
>> <draft-ietf-jose-fully-specified-algorithms-13> for your review
>> 
>> Thanks, Lynne.  That looks good.  I'll respond to the rest of the questions 
>> shortly - probably this weekend.
>> 
>>                               Best wishes,
>>                               -- Mike
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Lynne Bartholomew <[email protected]>
>> Sent: Wednesday, September 24, 2025 9:33 AM
>> To: Michael Jones <[email protected]>
>> Cc: [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; 
>> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected]; 
>> [email protected]
>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9864 
>> <draft-ietf-jose-fully-specified-algorithms-13> for your review
>> 
>> Hi, Mike.  We've applied consistent hyphenation per your request.
>> 
>> Please note that we also hyphenated "fully specified replacements", "fully 
>> specified digital signature algorithm identifiers", "fully specified COSE 
>> ECDSA algorithms", "fully specified encryption", etc., because "fully 
>> specified" also acts as a modifier in these instances.
>> 
>> The latest files are posted here.  Please refresh your browser:
>> 
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9864.txt
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9864.pdf
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9864.html
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9864.xml
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9864-diff.html
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9864-rfcdiff.html (side by side)
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9864-auth48diff.html
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9864-auth48rfcdiff.html (side by side)
>> 
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9864-xmldiff1.html
>>  https://www.rfc-editor.org/authors/rfc9864-xmldiff2.html
>> 
>> Please review our updates carefully, and let us know if anything is 
>> incorrect.
>> 
>> Thank you!
>> 
>> Lynne Bartholomew
>> RFC Production Center
>> 
>> 
>> 
>>> On Sep 20, 2025, at 1:40 PM, Michael Jones <[email protected]> 
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Thanks for your input, Sandy.  I've thought about it since receiving your 
>>> note yesterday, and I'd be more comfortable if we restored the hyphens to 
>>> the compound adjective uses.  In particular, please change all instances of 
>>> "fully specified algorithm" back to "fully-specified algorithm".
>>> 
>>> Yes, CMOS permits the omission of the hyphen.  But including the hyphen 
>>> makes it sound like my writing, which I've decided is important to me.
>>> 
>>>                              Thanks all!
>>>                              -- Mike
>>> 
>>> P.S.  I'll address the other AUTH48 questions shortly.
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: Sandy Ginoza <[email protected]>
>>> Sent: Friday, September 19, 2025 3:25 PM
>>> To: Michael Jones <[email protected]>
>>> Cc: RFC Editor <[email protected]>; [email protected];
>>> Alice Russo <[email protected]>; [email protected];
>>> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected];
>>> [email protected]
>>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9864
>>> <draft-ietf-jose-fully-specified-algorithms-13> for your review
>>> 
>>> Hi Mike,
>>> 
>>> Thank for trying to follow the guidance we previously sent!  What you said 
>>> is correct — compound adjectives are hyphenated when appearing before the 
>>> noun.  CMOS treats adverbs ending with -ly  differently — that is, no 
>>> hyphen whether appearing before or after the noun.  We removed the hyphen 
>>> from “fully qualified” for this reason.  If you feel strongly about using 
>>> the hyphen in this case, please let us know.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> Sandy
>>> 
>>> 
>>>> On Sep 19, 2025, at 10:47 AM, Michael Jones <[email protected]> 
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for the detailed work on this specification, Lynne and Karen!  
>>>> Before responding to the rest of the feedback, I wanted to get a broader 
>>>> set of opinions one change made, including possibly from Sandy and Alice, 
>>>> who I’ve added to the thread.
>>>> 
>>>> Uses of the compound adjective "fully-specified" (typically used in the 
>>>> context "fully-specified algorithms") were changed to "fully specified".  
>>>> The rationale for this change cited was as follows:
>>>> 
>>>> a) The following term was used inconsistently in this document.
>>>> We chose to use the latter form.  Please let us know any objections.
>>>> 
>>>> fully-specified /
>>>> fully specified (e.g., "are fully-specified", "are fully
>>>> specified", "fully specified RSA algorithms")*
>>>> 
>>>> * Per the Chicago Manual of Style
>>>> ("Compounds formed by an adverb ending in ‑ly plus an adjective or
>>>> participle (such as largely irrelevant or smartly dressed) are not
>>>> hyphenated either before or after a noun, since ambiguity is
>>>> virtually impossible (a smartly dressed couple).")
>>>> 
>>>> In previous interactions with the RFC Editor, I’d been told that the 
>>>> normal convention was to hyphenate compound adjectives qualifying a noun, 
>>>> such as “fully-specified algorithms”, but to not hyphenate noun phrases, 
>>>> such as “The algorithm is fully specified”.  Therefore, I followed that 
>>>> convention in the document.
>>>> 
>>>> Not that this is authoritative, but a Bing search result for “when to 
>>>> hyphenate words” opens with:
>>>> Here are some rules for when to hyphenate words:
>>>>    • Compound Adjectives: Hyphenate two or more words when they come 
>>>> before a noun and act as a single idea, such as "well-written book".
>>>>    • Modifiers: Use a hyphen when a compound modifier precedes the noun it 
>>>> modifies, like "high-speed chase".
>>>> 
>>>> This seems to support retaining the hyphenation when used as a compound 
>>>> adjective.
>>>> 
>>>> Personally, retaining the hyphenation in these contexts seems more natural 
>>>> to me, the Chicago Manual of Style’s suggestion notwithstanding.
>>>> 
>>>> But I’d be curious what others think.  I’ve added Sandy and Alice to the 
>>>> thread in case they want to weigh in.
>>>> 
>>>>                                                     Thanks all,
>>>>                                                     -- Mike
>>>> 
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: [email protected] <[email protected]>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, September 18, 2025 12:52 PM
>>>> To: [email protected]; [email protected]
>>>> Cc: [email protected]; [email protected];
>>>> [email protected]; [email protected]; [email protected];
>>>> [email protected]
>>>> Subject: Re: AUTH48: RFC-to-be 9864
>>>> <draft-ietf-jose-fully-specified-algorithms-13> for your review
>> 
>> Authors,
>> 
>> While reviewing this document during AUTH48, please resolve (as necessary) 
>> the following questions, which are also in the source file.
>> 
>> 1) <!-- [rfced] Please note that the document title has been updated as 
>> follows. The abbreviations "JOSE” and "COSE" have been expanded per Section 
>> 3.6 of RFC 7322 ("RFC Style Guide").  Please let us know any objections.
>> 
>> Original:
>> Fully-Specified Algorithms for JOSE and COSE
>> 
>> Currently:
>> Fully Specified Algorithms for JSON Object Signing and Encryption (JOSE)
>>             and CBOR Object Signing and Encryption (COSE) -->
>> 
>> Mike> The title in the current XML (using "Fully-Specified") is appropriate.
>> 
>> 2) <!-- [rfced] Section 2.1:  Because it appears that "full-specified"
>> means "fully specified", we updated this text accordingly.  If this is 
>> incorrect, please let us know what "full-specified" means (possibly 
>> "specified in full"?).
>> 
>> Original:
>> (The corresponding JOSE registrations in [RFC7518] are
>> full-specified.)
>> 
>> Currently:
>> (The corresponding JOSE registrations in [RFC7518] are  fully specified.) -->
>> 
>> Mike> This has already been addressed by returning to using 
>> "fully-specified", etc.
>> 
>> 3) <!-- [rfced] Section 3:  We see "COSE_Encrypt" but not "COSE Encrypt"
>> in RFC 9052, and we do not see "COSE Encrypt" or "COSE_Encrypt" in RFC 9053. 
>>  Please let us know how/if this sentence should be updated so that it is 
>> clear to readers.  For example, we see "using COSE_Encrypt, as specified in 
>> Section 5.1 of [RFC9052]" later in this section.
>> 
>> Original:
>> This section describes the construction of fully-specified encryption  
>> algorithm identifiers in the context of the JOSE and COSE encryption  
>> schemes JSON Web Encryption (JWE), as described in [RFC7516] and  [RFC7518], 
>> and COSE Encrypt, as described in [RFC9052] and [RFC9053]. -->
>> 
>> Mike>  Let's change "COSE Encrypt" to "COSE encryption".
>> 
>> New:
>>       This section describes the construction of fully-specified encryption 
>> algorithm identifiers in the context of the JOSE and COSE encryption schemes
>>       JSON Web Encryption (JWE), as described in <xref target="RFC7516"/> 
>> and <xref target="RFC7518"/>, and
>>       COSE encryption, as described in <xref target="RFC9052"/> and <xref 
>> target="RFC9053"/>.
>> 
>> 4) <!-- [rfced] Section 3:  Please confirm that "must specify" in this 
>> sentence shouldn't be "MUST specify".
>> 
>> Original:
>> To perform fully-specified encryption in COSE, the outer "alg" value  MUST 
>> specify all parameters for key establishment and the inner "alg"
>> value must specify all parameters for symmetric encryption. -->
>> 
>> Mike> The original text with "MUST specify" is fine.
>> 
>> 5) <!-- [rfced] Section 3.1:  "as are the key wrapping with AES GCM 
>> algorithms" reads oddly.  Should "key wrapping with AES GCM" be placed in 
>> quotes, per the quoted algorithm types in the next paragraph?
>> 
>> We have the same question for "The JOSE Key Encryption with PBES2 
>> algorithms" two paragraphs later.
>> 
>> Original (all three paragraphs included for context):
>> In both JOSE and COSE, all registered key wrapping algorithms are  fully 
>> specified, as are the key wrapping with AES GCM algorithms.  An  example of 
>> a fully-specified key wrapping algorithm is "A128KW" (AES  Key Wrap using 
>> 128-bit key).
>> 
>> The JOSE "dir" and COSE "direct" algorithms are fully specified.  The  COSE 
>> direct+HKDF algorithms are fully specified.
>> 
>> The JOSE Key Encryption with PBES2 algorithms are fully specified. -->
>> 
>> Mike> Let's change
>>   "the key wrapping with AES GCM algorithms"
>> to
>>   "the algorithms performing key wrapping using AES GCM"
>> 
>> Mike> Let's change
>>   "The JOSE Key Encryption with PBES2 algorithms are fully specified."
>> to
>>   "The JOSE algorithms performing Key Encryption with PBES2 are fully 
>> specified."
>> 
>> 6) <!-- [rfced] We have included some specific questions about the IANA text 
>> below. In addition to responding to those questions, please review all of 
>> the IANA-related updates carefully and let us know if any further updates 
>> are needed.
>> 
>> "JSON Web Signature and Encryption Algorithms" registry:
>>  https://www.iana.org/assignments/jose
>> 
>> "COSE Algorithms" registry:
>>  https://www.iana.org/assignments/cose
>> 
>> a) Section 4.1: As the "JSON Web Signature and Encryption Algorithms"
>> registry was established by RFC 7518, we have replaced RFC 7515 with RFC 
>> 7518 as shown below. We have also removed RFC 7515 from the normative 
>> references section as it was only mentioned in Section 4.1.
>> Note that RFC 7518 is listed as an informative reference; please let us know 
>> if this is okay as is or if it should be normative.
>> 
>> We also included that this document was listed as an additional reference 
>> for the registry at the end of the sentence below (and have removed the 
>> related text from Section 4.3, which describes the updates to the review 
>> instructions for the DEs).
>> Note that a similar change was made to Section 4.2 for the "COSE Algorithms" 
>> registry, as shown below.
>> 
>> Please review and let us know of any objections.
>> 
>> Original (Section 4.1):
>> This section registers the following values in the IANA "JSON Web  Signature 
>> and Encryption Algorithms" registry [IANA.JOSE] established  by [RFC7515].
>> 
>> Currently:
>> IANA has registered the values in this section in the "JSON Web  Signature 
>> and Encryption Algorithms" registry [IANA.JOSE]  established by [RFC7518] 
>> and has listed this document as  an additional reference for the registry.
>> 
>> ...
>> Original (Section 4.2):
>> This section registers the following values in the IANA "COSE  Algorithms" 
>> registry [IANA.COSE].
>> 
>> Currently:
>> IANA has registered the following values in the "COSE Algorithms"
>> registry [IANA.COSE] established by [RFC9053] and [RFC9054]  and has added 
>> this document as an additional reference for the  registry.
>> 
>> Mike> I agree with both of those changes.
>> 
>> b) Per the changes noted in a) above, we will ask IANA to update the 
>> reference for the "COSE Algorithms" registry as shown below (i.e., update 
>> the section number listed for this document).
>> 
>> Original:
>> Reference
>>   [RFC9053][RFC9054][draft-ietf-jose-fully-specified-algorithms-13,
>>   Section 4.3.1]
>> 
>> Suggested:
>> Reference
>>   [RFC9053][RFC9054][RFC9864, Section 4.2]
>> 
>> Mike> Good
>> 
>> c) In Section 4.2.1, we note that this document lists section numbers for 
>> the algorithms but the "COSE Algorithm" registry does not, so there is a 
>> mismatch. Should "Section 2.1" and "Section 2.2" be removed from this 
>> document for consistency with the registry, or should IANA add "Section 2.1" 
>> and "Section 2.2" accordingly for consistency with this document?
>> 
>> Section 2.1 listed in the document
>> but not in the registry for:
>> ESP256
>> ESP384
>> ESP512
>> ESB256
>> ESB320
>> ESB384
>> ESB512
>> 
>> Section 2.2 listed in the document
>> but not in the registry for:
>> Ed25519
>> Ed448
>> 
>> Mike> Thanks for noting the inconsistency.  Please include the section 
>> numbers everywhere.
>> 
>> d) For "ES512" in the "COSE Algorithm" registry, we note that "IETF"
>> is not listed under "Change Controller". Should "IETF" be added to the 
>> registry or removed from this document?
>> 
>> Currently in this document:
>> Name:  ES512
>> Value:  -36
>> Description:  ECDSA w/ SHA-512
>> Capabilities:  [kty]
>> Change Controller:  IETF
>> Reference:  [RFC9053] and RFC 9864
>> Recommended:  Deprecated
>> -->
>> 
>> Mike> Please add IETF as the change controller
>> 
>> 7) <!-- [rfced] RFC 8152 has been obsoleted by RFC 9052.  May we replace all 
>> instances of RFC 8152 with RFC 9052, or may we add the following sentence to 
>> the first mention of RFC 8152? Please let us know your preference.
>> 
>> Original:
>> Furthermore, while in [RFC7518] JOSE specifies that both "Deprecated"
>> and "Prohibited" can be used, in [RFC8152] COSE specifies the use
>> of "Deprecated" but not "Prohibited".
>> 
>> Perhaps:
>> Furthermore, while in [RFC7518] JOSE specifies that both "Deprecated"
>> and "Prohibited" can be used, in [RFC8152] COSE specifies the use
>> of "Deprecated" but not "Prohibited" (note that [RFC8152] has been
>> obsoleted by [RFC9052]).
>> -->
>> 
>> Mike> We kept the reference to 8152 because the referenced text wasn't 
>> carried forward into the documents that replaced it.  Let's go with this:
>> 
>> New:
>> Furthermore, while in [RFC7518] JOSE specifies that both "Deprecated"
>> and "Prohibited" can be used, in [RFC8152] COSE specifies the use
>> of "Deprecated" but not "Prohibited". (Note that [RFC8152] has been
>> obsoleted by [RFC9052].)
>> 
>> 8) <!-- [rfced] Section 4.4:  We see that the entry for "Recommended"
>> is formatted differently than the entries for "Deprecated" and "Prohibited" 
>> that appear just before it.  Would you like all three entries to be 
>> formatted in the same way?
>> 
>> Original:
>> Deprecated
>>   There is a preferred mechanism to achieve similar functionality to
>>   that referenced by the identifier; this replacement functionality
>>   SHOULD be utilized in new deployments in preference to the
>>   deprecated identifier, unless there exist documented operational
>>   or regulatory requirements that prevent migration away from the
>>   deprecated identifier.
>> 
>> Prohibited
>>   The identifier and the functionality that it references MUST NOT
>>   be used.  (Identifiers may be designated as "Prohibited" due to
>>   security flaws, for instance.)
>> ...
>> Recommended:  Does the IETF have a consensus recommendation to use
>>   the algorithm?  The legal values are "Yes", "No", "Filter Only",
>>   "Prohibited", and "Deprecated".
>> 
>> Possibly:
>> Recommended
>>   Does the IETF have a consensus recommendation to use the
>>   algorithm?  The legal values are "Yes", "No", "Filter Only",
>>   "Prohibited", and "Deprecated". -->
>> 
>> Mike> Yes, please make the formatting consistent in the way that you suggest.
>> 
>> 9) <!-- [rfced] Section 4.4:  Because the title of RFC 8996 is "Deprecating 
>> TLS 1.0 and TLS 1.1", should 'the term "Deprecated" is used in the title of 
>> [RFC8996]' be 'a variation of the term "Deprecated" is used in the title of 
>> [RFC8996]'?
>> 
>> Original:
>> For instance, the term "Deprecated" is used in the title of  [RFC8996], but 
>> the actual specification text uses the terminology  "MUST NOT be used". -->
>> 
>> Mike> Yes.  'a variation of the term "Deprecated" is used in the title of 
>> [RFC8996]' works for me.
>> 
>> 10) <!-- [rfced] [OpenID.Discovery]:  We see "Jones, M.B." in this document 
>> but "M. Jones" on the provided web page.  We normally make the author 
>> listings in the document match what we see on the provided web page.  Would 
>> it be possible for Mike to update 
>> <https://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-discovery-1_0.html> and list his 
>> name as "M.B. Jones", or should we change "Jones, M.B." to "Jones, M." here?
>> 
>> Original:
>> [OpenID.Discovery]
>>           Sakimura, N., Bradley, J., Jones, M.B., and E. Jay,
>>           "OpenID Connect Discovery 1.0", 15 December 2023,
>>           <https://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-discovery-
>>           1_0.html>. -->
>> 
>> Mike> https://openid.net/specs/openid-connect-discovery-1_0.html cannot be 
>> changed.  Please update the reference to match the referenced specification 
>> by removing the "B." in this case.
>> 
>> 11) <!-- [rfced] The provided URL for [FIDO2] yields a 404.  May we update 
>> as suggested (which includes correcting the names of the last two authors in 
>> the list)?  If not, please provide a working URL and correct information.
>> 
>> Original:
>> [FIDO2]    Bradley, J., Jones, M., Kumar, A., Lindemann, R., Johan,
>>           J., and D. David, "Client to Authenticator Protocol
>>           (CTAP)", FIDO Alliance Proposed Standard, 28 February
>>           2025, <https://fidoalliance.org/specs/fido-v2.2-ps-
>>           20250228/fido-client-to-authenticator-protocol-v2.2-ps-
>>           20250228.html>.
>> 
>> Suggested:
>> [FIDO2]    Bradley, J., Jones, M.B., Kumar, A., Lindemann, R.,
>>           Verrept, J., and D. Waite, "Client to Authenticator
>>           Protocol (CTAP)", FIDO Alliance Proposed Standard, 14
>>           July 2025, <https://fidoalliance.org/specs/
>>           fido-v2.2-ps-20250714/
>>           fido-client-to-authenticator-protocol-v2.2-ps-20250714.html>. -->
>> 
>> Mike> Yes, please apply this correction.
>> 
>> 12) <!-- [rfced] Acknowledgements:  John Preuß Mattsson recently informed us 
>> that his last name is "Preuß Mattsson".  Because it appears that the names 
>> should be listed in alphabetical order, we moved John's name in the list 
>> accordingly.  Please let us know any concerns.
>> 
>> Original:
>> ...
>> Stephen Farrell, Vijay Gurbani, Ilari Liusvaara, Tobias Looker, Neil  
>> Madden, John Preuß Mattsson, Kathleen Moriarty, Jeremy O'Donoghue,  Anders 
>> Rundgren, Göran Selander, Filip Skokan, Oliver Terbu, Hannes ...
>> 
>> Currently:
>> ...
>> Stephen Farrell, Vijay Gurbani, Ilari Liusvaara, Tobias Looker, Neil  
>> Madden, Kathleen Moriarty, Jeremy O'Donoghue, John Preuß Mattsson,  Anders 
>> Rundgren, Göran Selander, Filip Skokan, Oliver Terbu, Hannes ... -->
>> 
>> Mike> Works for me.
>> 
>> 13) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of the 
>> online Style Guide at 
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>> and let us know if any changes are needed.  Updates of this nature typically 
>> result in more precise language, which is helpful for readers.
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>> Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but this should 
>> still be reviewed as a best practice. -->
>> 
>> Mike> I am not aware of any inclusive language changes needed.
>> 
>> 14) <!-- [rfced] Please let us know if any changes are needed for the
>> following:
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>> a) The following term was used inconsistently in this document.
>> We chose to use the latter form.  Please let us know any objections.
>> 
>> fully-specified /
>>  fully specified (e.g., "are fully-specified", "are fully
>>  specified", "fully specified RSA algorithms")*
>> 
>> * Per the Chicago Manual of Style
>> ("Compounds formed by an adverb ending in ‑ly plus an adjective or  
>> participle (such as largely irrelevant or smartly dressed) are not  
>> hyphenated either before or after a noun, since ambiguity is  virtually 
>> impossible (a smartly dressed couple).")
>> 
>> Mike> We decided earlier to go with "fully-specified".  No additional 
>> changes are needed in this regard.
>> 
>> b) The following terms appear to be used inconsistently in this document.  
>> Please let us know which form is preferred.
>> 
>> alg value (2 instances) / "alg" value (7 instances)
>> 
>> Mike> Let's use "alg" value.
>> 
>> enc value ("alg and enc values") / "enc" value (5 instances)
>> 
>> Mike> Let's use "enc" value.
>> 
>> HSS/LMS / HSS-LMS ("HSS/LMS Hash-Based Digital Signature Algorithm",
>>  "HSS-LMS algorithm")
>> 
>> Mike> Both "HSS-LMS" and "HSS/LMS hash-based digital signature" are used in 
>> the COSE algorithms registry.  Therefore, the current text is consistent 
>> with the registry entry.  No change is needed.
>> 
>> c) The following terms appear both with and without <tt> in the XML file.  
>> Please review, and let us know if the current applications of <tt> are 
>> correct and consistent.
>> 
>> <tt>Ed25519</tt>  (no <tt>s in IANA Considerations section)
>> <tt>Ed448</tt>    (no <tt>s in IANA Considerations section)
>> <tt>EdDSA</tt>    usage of <tt> appears to be inconsistent (e.g., in
>>  the XML file, we see
>>  "This redefines the COSE <tt>EdDSA</tt> algorithm identifier" and
>>  "The following fully specified JOSE and COSE EdDSA algorithms" -->
>> 
>> Mike> Please add <tt> where missing for algorithm names, such as "The 
>> following fully specified JOSE and COSE <tt>EdDSA</tt> algorithms"
>> 
>> Thank you.
>> 
>> Lynne Bartholomew and Karen Moore
>> RFC Production Center
>> 
>> Mike> Thank you!
>> 
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>>>> --------------------------------------
>>>> RFC9864 (draft-ietf-jose-fully-specified-algorithms-13)
>>>> 
>>>> Title            : Fully-Specified Algorithms for JOSE and COSE
>>>> Author(s)        : M.B. Jones, O. Steele
>>>> WG Chair(s)      : John Bradley, John Preuß Mattsson, Karen O'Donoghue
>>>> 
>>>> Area Director(s) : Deb Cooley, Paul Wouters
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