On Mon, Sep 22, 2025 at 5:53 PM <[email protected]> wrote:

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> 1) <!--[rfced] FYI - To closer reflect the full title of the document, we
> have updated the short title as follows. Note that this appears in the
> running header of the PDF output.
>
> Original:
>  Prefer RFC8781
>
> Current:
>  IPv6 Prefix Discovery
> -->
>
Agreed. Suggest perhaps

NEW: IPv6 Prefix Discovery in IPv6-only and IPv6-mostly networks


>
> 2) <!--[rfced] To avoid the repetition of "based" twice in the same
> sentence and
> to clarify "[RFC7051] analysis", may we update this sentence as follows?
>
> Original:
>    [RFC7050] introduces the
>    first DNS64-based mechanism for PREF64 discovery based on [RFC7051]
>    analysis.
>
> Perhaps:
>    [RFC7050] introduces the
>    first DNS64-based mechanism for PREF64 discovery per the analysis
> described
>    in [RFC7051].
> -->
>
> This works for me.
 NEW:  [RFC7050] introduces the first DNS64-based mechanism for PREF64
discovery per the analysis described in [RFC7051].

>
> 3) <!--[rfced] May we clarify the citations in the text below as follows?
>
> Original:
>    Due to fundamental shortcomings of the [RFC7050] mechanism
>    (Section 4), [RFC8781] is the preferred solution for new deployments.
>
> Perhaps:
>    Due to fundamental shortcomings of the mechanism defined in [RFC7050]
>    (see Section 4 for more details), [RFC8781] describes the preferred
>    solution for new deployments.
>
Agreed.
NEW: Due to fundamental shortcomings of the mechanism defined in [RFC7050]
(see Section 4 for more details), [RFC8781] describes the preferred
solution for new deployments.

> -->
>
>
> 4) <!--[rfced] We note that some of the acronyms listed in the Terminology
> section are formatted in different ways (e.g., expanded form in
> parentheses,
> acronym in parentheses, and expanded form in description). To make these
> consistent, may we update to have the expanded form appear in the
> description of the acronyms listed?
>
> Original:
>    PREF64 (or Pref64::/n, or NAT64 prefix): An IPv6 prefix used for IPv6
>    address synthesis and for network addresses and protocols translation
>    from IPv6 clients to IPv4 servers using the algorithm defined in
>    [RFC6052].
>
>    Router Advertisement (RA): A packet used by Neighbor Discovery
>    [RFC4861] and SLAAC to advertise the presence of the routers,
>    together with other IPv6 configuration information.
>
>    SLAAC: StateLess Address AutoConfiguration, [RFC4862]
>
> Perhaps:
>    PREF64: Pref64::/n or NAT64 prefix.  An IPv6 prefix used for IPv6
>    address synthesis and for network addresses and protocols translation
>    from IPv6 clients to IPv4 servers using the algorithm defined in
>    [RFC6052].
>
>    RA: Router Advertisement.  A packet used by Neighbor Discovery
>    [RFC4861] and SLAAC to advertise the presence of the routers,
>    together with other IPv6 configuration information.
>
>    SLAAC: Stateless Address Autoconfiguration [RFC4862].
> -->
>
> Agreed.

 NEW:

PREF64: Pref64::/n or NAT64 prefix.  An IPv6 prefix used for IPv6
address synthesis and for network addresses and protocols translation
from IPv6 clients to IPv4 servers using the algorithm defined in
[RFC6052].

RA: Router Advertisement.  A packet used by Neighbor Discovery
[RFC4861] and SLAAC to advertise the presence of the routers,
together with other IPv6 configuration information.

SLAAC: Stateless Address Autoconfiguration [RFC4862].


> 5) <!--[rfced] As "are network-specific attributes" seems to directly
> describe
> "NAT64 and the exact values" rather than their presence, may we remove "the
> presence of" from this sentence?
>
> Original:
>    Fundamentally, the presence of the NAT64 and the exact value of the
>    prefix used for the translation are network-specific attributes.
>
> Perhaps:
>    Fundamentally, the NAT64 and the exact value of the
>    prefix used for the translation are network-specific attributes.
> -->
>

How about this:

NEW:
Fundamentally, the NAT64 function and the exact value of the
prefix used for the translation are network-specific attributes.


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> 6) <!--[rfced] FYI, we have formatted the following quoted text to appear
> in <blockquote>. Please review and let us know of any objections.
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> Original:
>    Section 3 of [RFC7050] states: "The node SHALL cache the replies it
>    receives during the Pref64::/n discovery procedure, and it SHOULD
>    repeat the discovery process ten seconds before the TTL of the Well-
>    Known Name's synthetic AAAA resource record expires."  As a result,
>    once a PREF64 is discovered, it will be used until the TTL expired,
>    or until the node disconnects from the network.
>
> Current:
>    Section 3 of [RFC7050] states:
>
>    |  The node SHALL cache the replies it receives during the Pref64::/n
>    |  discovery procedure, and it SHOULD repeat the discovery process
>    |  ten seconds before the TTL of the Well-Known Name's synthetic AAAA
>    |  resource record expires.
>
>    As a result, once a PREF64 is discovered, it will be used until the
>    TTL expires or until the node disconnects from the network.
> -->
>
> Agreed.

7) <!--[rfced] As the sentence below reads awkwardly, may we rephrase it as
> follows? Additionally, may we clarify that the mechanisms are being used,
> not the RFCs?
>
> Original:
>    Requiring nodes to implement two defense mechanisms when only one is
>    necessary when [RFC8781] is used in place of [RFC7050] creates
>    unnecessary risk.
>
> Perhaps:
>    When the mechanism defined in [RFC8781] is used in place of the one
> defined in
>    [RFC7050], nodes only need to implement one defense mechanism;
> requiring nodes
>    to implement two defense mechanisms creates an unnecessary risk.
> -->
>

This does read better.

NEW:
When the mechanism defined in [RFC8781] is used in place of the one defined
in
[RFC7050], nodes only need to implement one defense mechanism; requiring
nodes
to implement two defense mechanisms creates an unnecessary risk.
>
>
>
> 8) <!-- [rfced] The following reference is not cited in the text.  Please
> let
> us know where it should be cited; otherwise, it will be deleted from the
> references section.
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>    [RFC6146]  Bagnulo, M., Matthews, P., and I. van Beijnum, "Stateful
>               NAT64: Network Address and Protocol Translation from IPv6
>               Clients to IPv4 Servers", RFC 6146, DOI 10.17487/RFC6146,
>               April 2011, <https://www.rfc-editor.org/rfc/rfc6146>.
> -->
>
> This looks like it was added to our repo on 27-Aug-2024 by Jen. I only see
the informative reference and not any call to it. Interestingly, I am
unsure how that build worked. I believe we are ok to take it out unless Jen
has a detail I am missing.


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> 9) <!--[rfced] FYI - We have alphabetized the names listed in the
> Acknowledgments
> section. We believe that was the intent as only two were out of order. Let
> us
> know if you prefer the original order.
> -->
>
Agreed.

>
>
> 10) <!--[rfced] Throughout the text, "RA Option" and "RA option" are used
> inconsistently. Please review these occurrences and let us know if/how
> they may
> be made consistent.
> -->
>
> RFC 8781 uses "RA Option" so I think we are best to standardize on that.

>
> 11) <!--[rfced] There are a number of instances throughout the document
> where an RFC
> citation is used as an adjective. To clarify that the content of an RFC is
> being
> described, not the RFC document itself, may we rephrase these instances? An
> example from Section 1 can be seen here:
>
> Original:
>    However, subsequent methods have been developed to address
>    [RFC7050] limitations.
>
> Perhaps:
>    However, subsequent methods have been developed to address
>    the limitations of the mechanism described in [RFC7050].
> -->
>

Yes. this reads more fluidly to me.

NEW:
However, subsequent methods have been developed to address
the limitations of the mechanism described in [RFC7050].
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> Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but this should
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Will do.

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> Thank you.
>
> Alanna Paloma
> RFC Production Center
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> RFC9872 (draft-ietf-v6ops-prefer8781-07)
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> Title            : Recommendations for Discovering IPv6 Prefix Used for
> IPv6 Address Synthesis
> Author(s)        : N. Buraglio, T. Jensen, J. Linkova
> WG Chair(s)      : XiPeng Xiao, Nick Buraglio
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