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On Tue, Nov 25, 2025 at 8:06 AM Madison Church <[email protected]>
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>
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> > On Nov 18, 2025, at 1:36 PM, Megan Ferguson <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >
> > Hi Jon,
> >
> > Just a friendly reminder that we await your approval of this document.
> >
> > Please see the thread for further information and let us know if you’d
> like us to implement any further changes or proceed with the document in
> its current form.
> >
> > Thank you.
> >
> > RFC Editor/mf
> >
> >> On Nov 10, 2025, at 10:17 AM, Megan Ferguson <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>
> >> Hi Jon,
> >>
> >> Just a ping that we are awaiting your review/approval of the
> implementation of the updates requested prior to moving this document
> forward in the publication process.
> >>
> >> Please see the message below for further info.
> >>
> >> Thank you.
> >>
> >> Megan Ferguson
> >> RFC Production Center
> >>
> >>> On Oct 23, 2025, at 1:55 PM, Megan Ferguson <
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>>
> >>> Hi Jon,
> >>>
> >>> Thank you for your reply.  We have updated according to your
> preferences.
> >>>
> >>> Please review the files carefully as we do not make changes after
> publication.
> >>>
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> >>>
> >>> Please contact us with any further updates/questions/comments you may
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> >>>
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> >>>
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> >>> https://www.rfc-editor.org/auth48/rfc9888
> >>>
> >>> Thank you.
> >>>
> >>> Megan Ferguson
> >>> RFC Production Center
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>> On Oct 22, 2025, at 1:04 PM, Peterson, Jon <Jon.Peterson=
> [email protected]> wrote:
> >>>>
> >>>> 1) <!-- [rfced] We had the following questions/comments about the
> document title: a) Please note that the title of the document has been
> updated as follows: Abbreviations have been expanded per Section 3.6 of RFC
> 7322 ("RFC Style Guide"). Please review. Original: Out-of-Band STIR for
> Service Providers Current: Out-of-Band Secure Telephone Identity Revisited
> (STIR) for Service Providers b) Should "Framework" or something be added
> after (STIR) (once expanded, it doesn't seem like a noun anymore...).
> >>>>
> >>>> JFP: I don’t think “Framework” is necessary in the title.
> >>>>
> >>>> See also our change to the first sentence of the Introduction.
> Perhaps: Out-of-Band Secure Telephone Identity Revisited (STIR) Framework
> for Service Providers
> >>>>
> >>>> JFP: The first sentence of the intro is talking about STIR in
> general, not this out-of-band framework. So, it is okay as it reads in your
> initial change,
> >>>>
> >>>> --> 2) <!--[rfced] We had a few questions about the following
> sentence: Original: Moreover, any additional information included in a
> PASSporT which is not strictly redundant with the contents of a SIP request
> increases data collection concerns; while baseline [RFC8225] PASSporTs only
> contain information otherwise in the SIP request. a) Please help us clarify
> the subject of "which". Is it "information" or is it "PASSporT”?
> >>>>
> >>>> JFP: It is “information”. You can s/which/that
> >>>>
> >>>> b) Could the "while" be removed? This seems to be further
> information, not contrasting information?
> >>>>
> >>>> JFP: Really the semicolon before the “while” should be a comma. This
> is contrasting information: the baseline PASSporT  only contains
> information that is strictly redundant with the contents of a SIP request.
> >>>>
> >>>> c) Please clarify "only contain information otherwise in the SIP
> request". Does this mean only redundant information? Perhaps: Moreover, in
> a PASSporT, any additional information that is not strictly redundant with
> the contents of a SIP request increases data  collection concerns; baseline
> [RFC8225] PASSporTs only contain information redundant with the SIP
> request.
> >>>>
> >>>> JFP: I think converting the semicolon to a comma, and perhaps
> s/which/that, would be sufficient to clarify, but this proposed wording is
> also OK.
> >>>>
> >>>> --> 3) <!-- [rfced] Please review the "Inclusive Language" portion of
> the online Style Guide and let us know if any changes are needed. Updates
> of this nature typically result in more precise language, which is helpful
> for readers. Note that our script did not flag any words in particular, but
> this should still be reviewed as a best practice. In addition, please
> consider whether "tradition" should be updated for clarity. While the NIST
> website <> indicates that this term is potentially biased, it is also
> ambiguous. "Tradition" is a subjective term, as it is not the same for
> everyone. Original: ..may send SIP INVITEs to a gateway in front of a
> traditional PSTN…
> >>>>
> >>>> JFP: The usage of “traditional” here is OK I think.
> >>>>
> >>>> --> 4) <!-- [rfced] We had the following questions/comments about
> abbreviation use throughout the document: a) FYI - We have added expansions
> for abbreviations upon first use per Section 3.6 of RFC 7322 ("RFC Style
> Guide"). Please review each expansion in the document carefully to ensure
> correctness. b) FYI - We will update to use the abbreviation only after the
> first use for the following abbreviations in accordance with the online
> Style Guide: OOB-AS SPC
> >>>>
> >>>> JFP: OK
> >>>>
> >>>> --> 5) <!--[rfced] Please review the use of citation tags throughout
> the document: some are read as part of the sentence while others are not
> syntactically relevant. Please see the online Style Guide for further
> information/guidance.
> >>>>
> >>>> JFP: I think it’s OK.
> >>>>
> >>>> --> 6) <!--[rfced] We see the following similar terminology used
> throughout the document. Please let us know if/how we may make these
> consistent. STIR credential vs. STIR certificate vs. STIR [RFC8816]
> certificate out-of-band STIR vs. STIR out-of-band vs. STIR  out-of-band
> framework [RFC8816]
> >>>>
> >>>> JFP: I’ve reviewed these instances and I think the usage in the doc
> is OK.
> >>>>
> >>>> Thanks!
> >>>>
> >>>> --> Thank you. Megan Ferguson RFC Production Center
> >>>
> >>
> >
>
>
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