On Tue, 2010-12-21 at 20:45 -0600, Alexandro Colorado wrote: > To wear my OOoAuthors hat, I think that the move will represent extra > work on two fronts first is the political requrement of making a name > change and technical tax to make it. First is that by changing the > name, we need to rebuild a brand, which is already value gained on the > recognition. I guess that is the soft value we need to rebuild.
I thought a long time about the brand name, but I believe the new name is close enough to the old one, and many organisations successfully make much greater name changes. > Then > is the technical tax which means dealing with many static links, since > Plone is a CMS and most links are built statically as well as > complete. This makes it hard for most of the content to be able to > re-link itself. Definitely use of hours to complete. Yes I thought > about having an alias domain which could solve some of the issues, but > wouldn't that be the same in the end. Also changing the domian on > every link within every ODT individually on current and past issues is > something harder than doing it on the database. Nino has already mentioned a software fix (using an Apache Rewrite Directive) that would require essentially no effort on anyone's part after it is set up. Following an existing link from anywhere would get you to the new location. > I also see alternatives usually not requiring much, at least on our > end we had many VPS from colleges and Universities as well as Linux > groups without much requests by the entities. This was offer simply by > just asking, they already have admins that host the system so their > work is not that big. However we have hosted very small traffic > applications which is fine for us so what I request is to have the > technical requisites of the site to be sure these entities could coup > with a site like this. OOoAuthors is a Plone site, with Zope, a combination which I understand is very resource intensive. The database is around 2.5GB, maybe more. We have no data on traffic volume, but it probably is not high. However, one of our major requirements is for someone to take care of the site, including upgrading Plone/Zope & tweaking the site as needed, and solving any technical problems. My experience with colleges and universities is that they often close down (or abandon support for) outside sites when department personnel or finances change. For that reason, I personally would be opposed to accepting such an offer even if someone made it. > > I also wonder if we just split the site, and have just two different > Plone sites one for OOo and another for LibO. Keep the status quo on > the current server, and create a new site at OOoDeV with a TDF > specific site. Splitting the site (and leaving the OOoAuthors site where it is) would not solve the problems that we are currently having, and which are the reason for wanting to move the site in the first place. Splitting the site is also irrelevant and beside the point, because the LibO docs team may not (probably will not) choose to use a Plone site at all. My request has nothing to do with the LibO team, except that they (or other related groups) are welcome to use the ODFAuthors website if they choose. Unless someone else has some objections of substance, or realistic -- and immediate -- offers of alternative places to host the existing site AND provide the admin support we need, then the overwhelming collection of +1 votes means that we will accept OOoDeV's offer. That offer provides everything we need, at (IMO) the small price of changing the group's name very slightly. --Jean --------------------------------------------------------------------- To unsubscribe, e-mail: [email protected] For additional commands, e-mail: [email protected]
