On Thu, 2009-03-26 at 09:35 +0100, Stef Bon wrote:
> Ian Kent wrote:
> >>> No,
> >>>
> >>> after activating the executable map once, the data provided by the
> >>> executable map is kept. I've tested this by
> >>> letting the executable map write to an logfile, and it's running seldom.
> >>>
> >>> I can look at the contents of /proc/mounts and here I see the autofs
> >>> tree, which is kept. So I do not understand your remark
> >>> saying it is consulted every single lookup. Does the option -browse
> >>> mather here? I'm using that and because this forces the automounter to
> >>> remember the data right?
> >>>       
> >
> > It just means that autofs won't delete mount point directories after
> > they expire. Actually, this case looks like another problem, in that
> > we'll get directories that being retained that are no longer valid. Oh
> > well, that's something for another day.
> >   
> I'm checking I understand your reaction. You point at the browse option 
> which forces autofs to
> not delete mount point directories.

Yes.
My other comment relates to the cleanup of these directories.
I'm not sure it is important just yet.

> > Anyway, if the entry isn't a multi-mount (in which case it must not be
> > forgotten until it expires away) then it will be deleted from the cache
> > and the program map consulted again if the cache entry is older than the
> > negative timeout. Maybe making the negative timeout smaller would do
> > what you need, hopefully without causing other issues. The default
> > negative timeout is 60 seconds.
> >   
> I will try this, but I'm using executable maps which produce a 
> multi-mount map.

Which is fine except that, if the multi-mount entry is active, as in
hasn't been expired away, the map entry for it cannot be updated.

Last time I considered this I concluded it there were too many potential
consistency problems with allowing the entry to change while it was
mounted. If that has to change it will be hard to to, if it can be done
at all.

> >   
> >> OK, I was wrong.  Sorry about that (I was confused with the fact that
> >> program maps don't support the -browse option, since they can't support
> >> map enumeration).  I admit I am not up to speed on v5.  However, it
> >> looks to me like a HUP signal will not cause the service thread for your
> >> mount point to restart unless the actual program map changed.  This
> >> means the cache will still be in tact, as you observed.  I suspect we
> >> should probably clear the cache for any maptype that does not support
> >> enumeration upon receiving a HUP signal.  Ian, what do you think?
> >>     
> >
> > Not really, due to possible active multi-mounts.
> > The multi-mounts entries are the reason we have to wait until the mount
> > isn't busy.
> >   
> Ok, checking again here. You mean the case that one of the mountentries, 
> part of the multi-mount map
> is used (is: mounted) makes that the whole map is not refreshed.
> 
> Thanks for your reaction,
> 
> Stef Bon
> 

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