Stephen McConnell wrote:
> Isn't this more about communication.  One of the things the article 
> talks about is "keep-it-simple-stupid".  One of the *really* nice 
> things about the Avalon framework is that it is *really* simple.  
> Ok, so keeping it simple also means we don't get into heavy weight
> stuff at the framework level - but the feature list for a framework
> (such as JNDI and JDBC etc.) are more than the Avalon framework, and 
> more-than/less-that Excalibur.  My feeling is that to move from 
> "something-to-watch" to "don't-live-without" we need a couple of 
> additional ingredients:
> 
>   a) Phoenix with upgrade for 
>      "stupid-user-like-me-doesn't-need-to-think" deployment
>      model
> 
>   b) phoenix upgrade to beta release
> 
>   c) Excalibur components/service framework for easy JNDI
>      and JDBC + full integration of these features as Phoenix
>      core services (like logging) - its there and your don't 
>      need to think about it (a.k.a. default Phoenix configuration).
> 
>   d) Marketing push that positions Phoenix as (a) the Avalon app 
>      server, and (b) as the Avalon framework reference 
>      implementation and .

This will get a big push when my book is done....


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