> > I do not know what experience you have with commercial grade > development,
whow! Is that superiority seeping through somewhere? Commercial grade development is classified with regards to open source projects hosted at apache as much, much worse, unless, of course, it is commercial grade development taking place at apache. You try and prove otherwise. (...) Please. We don't really need this discussion. I can have conversations like this all day long on slashdot, where I get to consume rude language as an added bonus. > > or dealing with the people in charge of such, but the *only* way Avalon > > and Excalibur will be used in the real world by real companies > > is to write the code in such a way as to make it usable in a commercial > > environment. Avalon and Excalibur are in real use by real companies. Would, say, the UN using it do it for you? It is usable in a commercial environment. Granted, one where the decision makers understand open source and where developers understand modern concepts like patterns, design for reuse, etc. If you don't believe that, why are you here? If you question whether the people that have coded most of avalon (and I don't really mean myself) are up to the task of "commercial grade development", then misquote the guidelines, then talk about those people "baiting" you, well, ... We are not a company. If we were, I'd complain about my salary. Instead, we're a community. Please respect that. - Leo Simons -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
