Leo Simons wrote:
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> yup, except we have ECM and merlin as well, and it is still cool if
> phoenix is embeddable as well (ie, since there is no J2EE container that
> uses it as its core, make it possible to contain it within J2EE).

I think that all containers should have two modes of execution: 
embeddable and standalone.

If we create an interface to embed containers, we might as well define 
standard wrappers for these containers (standalone, J2EE, etc) we could 
just drop in a container and it's done.

BTW, is what does Mr. Merlin propose for its container?

> And it is the world I'd like to live in; we're not there just yet =)

We're doing it already, it's even sooner that I ever hoped for :-)

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