Me. I'd never even heard of anti-patterns until sometime in the last 2
weeks. I did have some familiarity with rudimentary patterns (singleton,
flyweight, etc.)

Don't know if that's typical or not. I'm betting it's more common than
you think and less so than I do. 

I think Paulo's approach of show them the greatness and if they don't
get it or want more examples of why it's great then give them
anti-patterns. If they see the greatness and want to use it then take
them straight into using Avalon, coming back to anti-patterns when you
talk about component design.

Corey


On Thu, 2002-06-27 at 20:43, Pete Carapetyan wrote:
> Paulo Gaspar wrote:
> 
> >I follow the Anti-Pattern thing since 4 years ago. I like it. It
> >is a great argument.
> >
> >What I disagree is about making the central/introductory argument
> >for Avalon.
> >
> >First show how it is great, THEN show how it avoids bad things.
> >
> Makes the assumption that the person being showed has the same sense of 
> what is great that you or I do.
> 
> My sense of the market is that without anti-patterns, the great features 
> of Avalon resonate like a good yawn to the typical developer. But I'd be 
> happy to be proven wrong. Can you offer any observations that show 
> developers who even give Avalon a second click, without a sense of the 
> anti-patterns already deep in their bones?
> 
> The best use of an anti-pattern as a communication device that I have 
> seen is a crack that my nephew was walking around with a couple years ago.
> 
> *New breakthroughs in toilet paper technology.*
> 
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