On Fri, 2002-11-01 at 17:15, Paul Hammant wrote:
> Leo,
> 
> > + Dissent *must* be allowed and even encouraged.
> >   I much prefer those that have a grievance with the project
> >   to step right up and say so, than to keep it to themselves.
> >   If committer A want to say that Avalon is crap, fine, let 
> >   him. If he has a point we're good enough to learn from it,
> >   if not, we're good enough to refute that statement.
> >
> Actually you are right.  We should not be blocked on dissent.
> 
> I'll stand by my assertion that the more we do it, the more lengthy it 
> is, the more emotive the wordage, the more we shrink our community.  

If someone is frustrated and emotional about things that happen or have
happened in a community and doesn't speak up about it, no-one will ever
know and there is no way to learn from (or even of!) mistakes the
community makes.

If things are not happy-go-merry, the community might shrink. But not
putting out in the open the way things are is worse in the end.

as an example: if the avalon developers have a grudge against each
other, that might impact a business decision by an IT manager (because
of perceived stability decrease etc etc), resulting in his company not
basing a project around avalon. But if the avalon developers have a
grudge against each other and the manager making that business decision
doesn't know about that, that's worse because you'll impact the success
of that project (manager gets fired, project killed, avalon
blacklisted....).

I think it is good to voice dissent. But we should all work to prevent
it from happening.

cheers,

Leo Simons



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