Stephen McConnell wrote:
I think you used the magic word here... visibility.Federico Barbieri wrote:Berin Loritsch wrote:I see you all agree on this and I'm happy the Avalon community is strong and united but...I am glad we are finally considering a true Avalon PMC. I have long thought that we would be a good candidate for a top level project, maybe even more than one. Other than standard legalese for all PMC charters, we should look at what we explicitly desire for the Avalon PMC.
IMHO there is not *one* single reason why creating an Avalon PMC and moving discussions from here to there would make things *any* better. It's Yet Another Mailing List.
Federico:
I totally and completely agree with your sentiments here.
If we look back over the discussions on this subject there have been a broad spectrum of reasons reflecting the breadth of the Avalon community and beyond that - those communities impacted by Avalon (our user community, the Apache Board, Jakarta, etc.). The notion of "escalation" means different things to different people - for myself it is something strongly related to the notion of our right to "self determination". For others it is related to questions of "accountability", "visibility", "liability" - the list goes on.
I +1000 to give more self determination and accountability to all Jakarta projects (which of course does not mean 1 PMC each) and -1000 to give more visibility to projects that are not mature yet.
This is probally due to my personal definition of "top level project".
fede
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