Federico Barbieri wrote:

Stephen McConnell wrote:


Federico Barbieri wrote:

Berin Loritsch wrote:

I am glad we are finally considering a true Avalon PMC.
I have long thought that we would be a good candidate for
a top level project, maybe even more than one.  Other than
standard legalese for all PMC charters, we should look at
what we explicitly desire for the Avalon PMC.

I see you all agree on this and I'm happy the Avalon community is strong and united but...
IMHO there is not *one* single reason why creating an Avalon PMC and moving discussions from here to there would make things *any* better. It's Yet Another Mailing List.



Federico:

I totally and completely agree with your sentiments here.

If we look back over the discussions on this subject there have been a broad spectrum of reasons reflecting the breadth of the Avalon community and beyond that - those communities impacted by Avalon (our user community, the Apache Board, Jakarta, etc.). The notion of "escalation" means different things to different people - for myself it is something strongly related to the notion of our right to "self determination". For others it is related to questions of "accountability", "visibility", "liability" - the list goes on.

I think you used the magic word here... visibility.
I +1000 to give more self determination and accountability to all Jakarta projects (which of course does not mean 1 PMC each) and -1000 to give more visibility to projects that are not mature yet.

I happy to see your +1000 on the subjects of self determination and accountability.
It appears we share a couple of common interests.

:-)

Cheers, Steve.

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Stephen J. McConnell

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