Re: [Proposal] Breaking up Avalon

[Nicola Ken Barozzi]

Peter Donald wrote:

On Tue, 19 Nov 2002 16:02, Berin Loritsch wrote:

Also discussion about the way the "new" avalon will operate disturbs me.
It has been implied that the PMC will be making development decisions to
solve some of the problems.

I have a lot to catch up on.  What "new" avalon are we talking about?

Essentially if it is not the framework or a container it becomes out of scope. So majority of exclibur/cornerstone/logkit/apps gets moved out.

It's not a scope problem but an opportunity, and you know it, since you have agreed on it in principle, both on this list and on the Commons list where you are part of the PMC.
Turbine developers seem interested too.

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=avalon-dev&m=103493058712394&w=2
http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=turbine-dev&m=103551475316272&w=2

The remaining containers (fortress/merlin) then go back into jakarta-avalon/scratchpad

They go in jakarta-avalon/scratchpad IMVHO where they belong, not "go back". I don't recall Fortress being released, nor the new Merlin, so I reckon that they are still in "scratchpad".

and get rebuilt from scratch (perhaps along with framework via the avalon5 proposal).

No.

I never recall saying it.
What I remember saying is that maybe what will come out as a reference container is something new, different from these, that gets rebuild from scratch.

Could be, could not be, I'm not the (only) one to decide.

As Nicola put it "Phoenix community != Avalon community, it's quite clear to all" so I assume his opinion was that phoenix also got ejected.

No.

I have already explained this.

http://marc.theaimsgroup.com/?l=avalon-dev&m=103755622823103&w=2

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Peter Donald wrote:
 > On Wed, 13 Nov 2002 20:54, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:
 >
 >>Phoenix community != Avalon community, it's quite clear to all.
 >
 > Not clear at all. I would think you would be least likely to
 > try and divide the Avalon community that way.

I'm stating what many believe is a fact, not a tentative to divide.
I will not do it further.

[...]

You are disregarding the fact that design should restart with consensus
now, not majority votes.
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