+1 to everything you say. In fact the +1 +-0 -1 design is not correct for this. Better would be for/against as is used world over for shareholder meetings etc. "Three voting and at least one in majority" is not enough.
-ph --- Berin Loritsch <[EMAIL PROTECTED]> wrote: > The marathon voting that happened while I could not be there is not good > for Avalon, nor is it good for the community. It forced Peter to play a > hand he did not really want to play. I gave me the feeling that noone > really > knows what was really voted for. There are some "understandings" but > nothing written to substantiate them. If things don't go according to those > understandings, there will be many angry people with nothing they can > do except fork the community and code. > > I want to call a revote, but split it into three separate votes/issues. By > separating the issues, we can have a better and clearer understanding > of what we are voting for. We voted for personalities, wording, and wether > we were for PMC or not. I want to separate the issues to make it very > clear: > > 1) PMC, yes or no? I have a feeling this will be a yes around the board. > 2) PMC charter and bylaws. We need to start with a standard Apache > cookie cutter PMC charter, and edit it to say what we understand. Things > like rotating chair positions and conflict resolution MUST BE IN WRITING > before any sane person can agree to it. I *never* ever sign a contract > I don't agree to, or don't understand my responsibilities. > 3) With a full understanding of the PMC charter, who should be the first > chair. Who does the comunity feel that will support the charter, and > has a PROVEN track record for Avalon as a whole. > > It needs to be said that not one of us has been innocent of being in > disagreement. What needs to happen is that the long time committers > need to get out of the "I just don't care for being polite anymore" > mentality, which I did catch myself getting into in the last months. > Peter, Stephen, Nicola, Leos, Paul, and myself have all been involved > in heated discussions and have all said things we probably regret > saying. Nevertheless, we need clear direction and I don't think we > have it. > > By taking the time to do this vote correctly, and patiently, I think we > can get to a place where we are all relatively happy. > > I think that we need one full week for each voting stage (1,2,3) as > outlined above. Before we can vote on 2, we need a document that > is maintained in CVS, so that our vote is on a specific revision of > that document. Once the charter is written and voted for, it can only > be changed by the concerted effort of the PMC. > > > -- > To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> > __________________________________________________ Do You Yahoo!? Everything you'll ever need on one web page from News and Sport to Email and Music Charts http://uk.my.yahoo.com -- To unsubscribe, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]> For additional commands, e-mail: <mailto:[EMAIL PROTECTED]>
