Darrell DeBoer wrote:
On Thu, 28 Nov 2002 04:45, Stefano Mazzocchi wrote:

Nobody is proposing to stop Phoenix development, Peter. Stop crying.

Ummm, Stefano, you might want to read the entire content of the emails you send. This one seems self-contradictory. Or just a troll.

(from further up you email)

On Wed, 27 Nov 2002 18:30, Nicola Ken Barozzi wrote:

We are discussing about a new single container with profiles, wouldn't
be better to put all further development on hold, switch to maintainance
mode and focus on that?

Sounds like someone proposing to stop Phoenix development to me.
Nicola proposed to put on hold 'further development' of Phoenix. Which (at least to me) means: let's top having containers as playgrounds for framework-related stuff that should be discussed and voted by the avalon development community.

My response was that nobody here is proposing to 'shut down phoenix' and stop its development and leave all the phoenix users with nothing to work on and without bugs to be fixed.

So, one thing is 'development', another thing is 'further development'. But you're right, it wasn't clear, so thanks for asking me to clarify.

What I want to see ending is the use of containers to implement stuff that influence Avalon as a framework and create 'dialects' of framework usage.

This is what Nicola is proposing to stop.

This is what I agree on.

If the community agrees on this proposal, Phoenix (and all the other containers controlled by the Avalon development community) will implement what the Avalon community decides and all the framework-related decisions will have to go thru community consensus.

This will, hopefully, reduce current Avalon 'balkanization'.

If the community agrees on this proposal and single developers want to go ahead without community consensus they can:

1) follow the rules of revolutionaries

2) go somewhere else

There is no other alternative around here.

All avalon developers must understand that.

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