Re: Charter.txt

[Stephen McConnell]

Noel J. Bergman wrote:

Based on the emails so far, it seems to me that there are
a three proposals that meet both our objectives.

I'd like to clarify.  Are you trying to lower the standard for a quorum from
50% of PMC members to a minimum of 3 PMC members voting over some period of
time?  [By the way, I also had incorporated the notion of time since there
wouldn't be an actual meeting unlike for an ASF Board Meeting.]

I not trying to lower a standard - just trying to understand and compare proposals on the table.

Both your proposal and Berin's proposal including a time reference - I figure that Berin's suggestion of one week would be fine.

As you stated: "the benefit of increasing the quorum is that it ensures
representation - the downside is related to availability of members."

There *might* be an obstacle with respect to the definition of a quorum.
You are proposing that regardless of the size of the PMC that a quorum made
of less than 50% be able to legally bind the organization.  But if the ASF
allows that, I really couldn't care less what the Community agrees upon as a
quorum, so long as everyone is comfortable.

This is an important point. The board meeting quorum is 50% and majority decisions. The closer we stick to board procedures the better.

From your conclusion that the third proposal is (possibly) your favorite, I

derive that you want all activce Committers to be represented on the PMC,
majority vote (rather than 2/3), and a lower standard for a quorum.  Is that
correct?

I really don't have a conclusion yet. I see benefits in each - in your proposal we are clearly very close to the policies of the board and legal integrity. In Berin's proposal the notion of a qualified majority comes in, and the quorum goes down (one balances against the other) and favours concensus. In the third proposal we have greater representation but its also the furthest from the board position.

Again, just trying to pull together the mechanism from your prose.

If you prepared a bar graph for the three proposals you would see three bars of basically equivalent height. The differences are subtle. One favours representation, one favours concensus, and a third favours legality. I havn't draw a conclusion - but I am trying to draw some graphs.

Cheers, Steve.

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Stephen J. McConnell

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