Leo Simons wrote:
> 
> > So the advantage is simply that the stuff is there and working,
> 
> not to great within phoenix though =)

Why not? What is missing?

> > plus it
> > uses established standards (HTTP for non-Java access and RMI for Java
> > access). If at some point in the future MX4J turns out to be too slow or
> > otherwise not appropriate, you would not have to change the client and
> > the communication protocol, you'd just have to implement a new and
> > better server.
> 
> probably wouldn't work that way in real life...

And why is that?

> > Also, in the future there may be people, who want to
> > connect their clients to an Avalon/Phoenix server and they might not
> > have the slightest idea of Avalon/Phoenix. It would be cool to be able
> > to tell them that it's just XML over HTTP
> 
> ? Just don't follow here. Spell out for me please? Why is it cool that
> avalon == XML over HTTP?

Everybody knows what XML and HTTP are, but no-one knows what Avalon is.
If you'd tell me as a developer I'd have to use a custom protocol with
Avalon, I'd turn away. No chance to sell it to my boss.

> What you should keep in mind that JMX is very useful as a management
> protocol (ie designed with stuff like SNMP in mind), but not so much for
> more generic program-to-progam communications (that'd be JMS, RMI,
> CORBA, SOAP, ...). It is just so popular because it is easy to also use
> it for stuff like that. I'm not saying you don't get that (think you do)
> -- just that there's quite a few people that don't get it.

If JMX is popular, because it's easy to use, then it is obviously more
useful than those other technologies :)

What you can do with JMX is basically set and get values - and that's
all you need in program-to-program communication. Everything else is
just syntactic sugar.

Ulrich

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Ulrich Mayring
DENIC eG, Systementwicklung

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