Thank you Michael, yes, that is the app. Been a lot of challenges, but I am happy to say, usually Away3D is a pleasure, not a challenge. It's performance has been surprisingly good considering I have to compete with C++ programs that have DirectX and OpenGL libraries, LOL. Right now it is within a factor of 2 or 3x of them and I am confident that Molehill will close the remaining gap and then some. It will be very cool to see a Flex + Away3D program keeping up performance-wise with that sort of company.
The biggest challenges in using Flash/AIR/Flex for the project have actually been in two areas. First, the app is essentially an IDE for a language (CNC g-code language) where I have to build the virtual machine and it has to be highly configurable because every machine has a slightly different g-code dialect. Learning to build reasonably fast compiler/interpreter in Flex for a complex language was fun. The other was the building an IDE-style editor for text files that could be many megabytes long. Just loading that into a TextArea doesn't work so well! So I had to build a fancy paged TextArea class to support all the editing on large files as well as all the editing commands that go with a decent programmer's editor. That's also been fun. Lastly, it's been quite interesting to build the "FatSaaS" infrastructure to make it easy to charge for the software, authenticate, provision, and all the rest of the SaaSy things with absolutely minimal server side resources. I will put some sample g-code files accessible from that home page so non-CNC peeps can load them up and check out the program a little bit. Kinda hard to make it do much if you don't know g-code otherwise, LOL! Best, BW On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 9:38 AM, Michael Iv <[email protected]> wrote: > @Bob , Wow I recall a few months ago you put here a screenshot.So that is > the app> ? Holy crap! With Away inside? You rock man. Super cool.Keep it up. > > > > On Fri, Apr 8, 2011 at 5:23 AM, Bob Warfield <[email protected]> wrote: > >> Peter, I'm just trying to understand how to make what you're communicating >> here actionable, so let me make a suggestion: >> >> Waiting is no problem. But, it's acknowledgement that will make the >> waiting begin most easily. >> >> "Yes, that does sound like a bug. Please submit it to the issues >> list." >> >> Or: >> >> "Not clear that's a bug, there is a lot that could be going on, have >> you thought about X, Y, or Z?" >> >> Or: >> >> "No earthly idea what's going on from your description. You need to >> make a small demo program so we can look at it." >> >> Heck, even: >> >> "That's definitely a bug, but we aren't going to fix it because that >> code or feature is going away in 4.0." >> >> It's silence that will have people trying to find some way to get some >> attention. I know the driving reason the forum was being pushed was simply >> a desire to get some kind of feedback on status. >> >> RE 3.6 vs 4.0, it's okay to prioritize too. I know the team is not all >> that large and there are day jobs to attend to. If the rumored 4.0 release >> by end Q2 is correct, I am sure the team has their hands full trying to make >> that deadline. I'm only pursuing 3.6 because the message I got was that it >> was an important step to prepare for a logical migration to 4.0. If the >> direction was that it wasn't a worthwhile migration because we don't have >> time to make it so, and please stand by for 4.0, I'm cool with that too. I >> also pursued it out of some sense that a bug in 3.6 may be a bug in 4.0, and >> hence more urgent. >> >> Lastly, I'm reasonably self-sufficient and only come forward when I hit >> the proverbial brick wall. The app I'm building is quite large and >> ambitious. CAD programs in Flash are not too common, LOL. If Buzzword is >> to word processing for Flash then this is to CAD, at least the little niche >> market of CAD it is in, and it's already getting quite a bit of attention >> with 800 Beta testers so far. I think it'll be a nice showpiece for the >> power of Away3D in an area other than games. You can see more about it or >> download the Beta if interested here: >> http://www.cnccookbook.com/CCGWizardE.html >> >> Cheers, >> >> BW >> >> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 5:47 PM, Peter Kapelyan <[email protected]>wrote: >> >>> I can hear you guys loud and clear. It's disappointing to me that bugs >>> are going unanswered. >>> >>> There is really only 1 thing that can be done, and that is to add any bug >>> to the official issue list. Repeating the same bug here doesn't seem to be >>> getting anywhere, unfortunately. Please add very simple examples to the list >>> so the bug can be recreated. Not saying anyone is doing it, but a bug and >>> demands out of frustration (with no example or easy way to replicate) just >>> will hang around longer. >>> >>> This is how things used to go: People add bugs to the issue list, they >>> pile up, Rob and others try to clear them all out (usually in one fell >>> swoop). Now that that isn't getting done for whatever reason, I can only >>> suggest to wait. Maybe someone has the time to fix a bug and submit a patch, >>> which usually worked before. >>> >>> Bugs in 3.6 aren't getting much attention, which is a shame since I >>> personally think 3.6 is just as valuable as 4.0. I agree that a forum won't >>> do much good to change this, although this group isn't the best way to find >>> answers to questions either. >>> >>> And finally, yes away3d is BIG now, and there is a lot of demand and >>> attention needed for it. So as the messages in this group pile up (even if >>> it was a forum), the task to address all the issues is getting more >>> daunting. The away3D devs have done a super job for us all, and it's all >>> free! Donations are always welcome. >>> >>> Anyways my 2 cents. Hopefully with some patience things will turn out >>> great. >>> >>> -Pete >>> >>> >>> >>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 5:07 PM, Bob Warfield <[email protected]>wrote: >>> >>>> Stephen, you can see what you get for a Trident once its compiled here: >>>> >>>> >>>> http://devluchadore.wordpress.com/2011/04/04/issues-converting-from-away3d-3-5-to-3-6/ >>>> >>>> That shows a screenshot of both Tridents in my actual CAD/CAM >>>> application so you can see what I'm trying to achieve (the 3.5 Trident) >>>> versus what I am getting (the 3.6 Trident). >>>> >>>> So, if I understand this dot product issue, I should not be passing 0's, >>>> but rather 0.001's in the upAxis vector? Instead of {0,0,-1} I need >>>> {0.001,0.001,-1}? Since it was easy, I tried it. In fact I tried making >>>> any 0 in sight 0.001. Didn't make a lick of difference. >>>> >>>> I went back and looked at the eulers/rotation of the camera. It's quite >>>> different in 3.5 vs 3.6, as it would have to be: >>>> >>>> 3.5: >>>> >>>> 46.83172 -2.4E-06 -44.9983 >>>> >>>> 3.6 >>>> >>>> 41.3751 -24.258 -70.003 >>>> >>>> Again, this sure looks like a 3.6 bug as I am feeding it exactly the >>>> same parameters in both versions and getting a different answer. >>>> >>>> I don't see how a forum will tell you any more than the mailing list. >>>> Just because somebody viewed the post doesn't mean it was somebody on the >>>> team or that knew anything. The real issue is it takes a lot of pushing to >>>> get answers to questions. This is my second thread started on this issue >>>> before anyone responded at all. >>>> >>>> John, RE pure AS3, I don't know non-Flex, LOL. In any event, I don't >>>> think there is much "Flexy" going on in that code other than the >>>> transparent >>>> layer "hitArea". I debated whether to include it in the sample but did >>>> just >>>> in case it might be the cause. It's there in the first place to deal with >>>> another Away3D bug I could never get to the bottom of. My mouse events >>>> were >>>> getting eaten if the mouse point touched any segment in any mesh. >>>> >>>> Still need help figuring this out. Sure looks like a bug to me! >>>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> >>>> BW >>>> On Thu, Apr 7, 2011 at 12:59 PM, Stephen Hopkins < >>>> [email protected]> wrote: >>>> >>>>> Hard to say what you are trying to achieve/encountering since there is >>>>> no compiled version, but the problem might be with the lookAt >>>>> function. I and maybe a few others had trouble using the lookAt >>>>> function. >>>>> >>>>> http://groups.google.com/group/away3d-dev/browse_thread/thread/97f7f439a321873/99323699b3fecfe6?lnk=gst&q=simple+camera+problem#99323699b3fecfe6 >>>>> >>>>> I just wanted the camera to look directly downwards, or along a >>>>> global axis, but the camera would would not rotate for some reason >>>>> unless I skewed the vector away from the the unit axis vectors. (i.e., >>>>> instead of looking at (0, 0, 0), I made it look at (0, 0, 0.001) ). >>>>> Never found a fix to it or why it was happening. Such a bug did not >>>>> occur in Away 3.5 as I had many demos/projects that did such a thing. >>>>> This is why we need a forum. I would post a new issue, but I just hate >>>>> the fact that there's no way of telling if they have been reviewed. I >>>>> already have two outstanding issues that I don't know whether they >>>>> will be solved or addressed, or just fixed in away3d 4.0 >>>>> >>>>> On Apr 7, 8:36 am, Bob Warfield <[email protected]> wrote: >>>>> > I have attached source code for a real simple demo. It does nothing >>>>> other >>>>> > than show the Trident. If you compile it with 3.5 libraries, the >>>>> Trident is >>>>> > correct. If you compile with 3.6, the Trident is cockeyed. >>>>> > >>>>> > There are 2 changes required to switch between the libraries: >>>>> > >>>>> > - Comment or uncomment the import of Number3D. >>>>> > - Comment or uncomment the routines at the top that say "3.5 >>>>> Version" or >>>>> > "3.6 Version". >>>>> > >>>>> > There's not an awful lot that changes between the two versions other >>>>> than >>>>> > whether I user Number3D or Vector3D yet the two Tridents are very >>>>> > different. That doesn't seem right. >>>>> > >>>>> > Can somebody please help? >>>>> > >>>>> > Best, >>>>> > >>>>> > BW >>>>> > >>>>> > GWAway3D.mxml >>>>> > 1KViewDownload >>>>> > >>>>> > GWizCamDemo.as >>>>> > 10KViewDownload >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> -- >>> ___________________ >>> >>> Actionscript 3.0 Flash 3D Graphics Engine >>> >>> HTTP://AWAY3D.COM <http://away3d.com/> >>> >> >> > > > -- > Michael Ivanov ,Programmer > Neurotech Solutions Ltd. > Flex|Air |3D|Unity| > www.neurotechresearch.com > http://blog.alladvanced.net > Tel:054-4962254 > [email protected] > [email protected] > >
